How will Tivo Series 2 sets be able to tune the upcoming DTV Broadcast Converters?

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  1. Aug 9, 2008 #641 of 943
    ToddNeedsTiVo

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    Looks like the Channel Master 7000 has ample praise, is on the TiVo supported list, and seems to be one of the few with s-video output. I'll be needing a CECB for my mother, who currently uses a single-tuner Series 2 for OTA only. I don't care about analog pass-through, but s-video seems like a good idea, and the Series 2 can accept that input.

    What bricks & mortar location is selling these? Having a hard time answering that question online. Amazon shows it as unavailable. No luck searching Radio Shack, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, or Target.
     
  2. Aug 9, 2008 #642 of 943
    gastrof

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    Potato and pen.

    We weren't talking about that.

    We were talking about the digital changeover affecting Dual Tuner machines, as you actually quoted.

    The digital changeover won't have any effect on them, since they were made for satellite and cable, and those aren't facing what OTA is on Feb 17th '09.

    Yours actually doesn't work with OTA, by the way...

    It works with an external tuner box, which is pretty common for a DT machine. It's the tuner box that works with OTA. :p

    The DT's own internal tuner doesn't.

    I'm curious as to what lineup you're using and how.

    Telling the TiVo that you have DISH, possibly, and that your DISH box includes an OTA digital tuner? Using an OTA box whose codes the TiVo does know? (Kind of a gimmie on that one.) Unchecking all the channels on the DISH lineup you created during Setup, leaving only the OTA's?
     
  3. TheGreenHornet

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    Todd in Iowa:

    I was just looking for a channel master 7000 on line last night. I think the S Video is a great feature for my older Sony in my home office.

    I did find it at Fry'e Electornics on line. They have retail stores on the west coast. They are selling the CM 7000 for $60. I can not tell if they accept the coupons that would make the price $20 plus their reasonable price for shipping. It might be worth a phone call to customer service on Monday to see if they accept the coupons on the phone.

    http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5488779?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

    I also found the box at Signalsource.com (they list it on e-bay too) and freedtvshop.com. I can not find any other mainstream brick and mortar store for the CM 7000.

    The only other s-video box thus far is Best Buy's Apex that is in their store locally. It is on line at:

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...l+converter+box&type=product&id=1213046767902
     
  4. TiVoJedi

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    One 'problem with the APEX is that the displayed picture is always zoomed-in a little meaning all sides of the picture are missing (displayed outside the viewable portion of your TV screen). It's call overscan and there's no way to adjust it with the box.
     
  5. bradm42

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    I just noticed that www.tivo.com/priority seems to be up now for the 9.3c which has the CECB support.

     
  6. wmcbrine

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    No, 9.3c has been up for some time, and does not include CECB support.
     
  7. ToddNeedsTiVo

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    With the Channel Master apparently only being available in my area out of the backs of vans down by the river, I opted for an Apex DT250 and an Insignia NS-DXA1-APT today from Best Buy. Whether I keep these or use them at Mom's remains to be seen.

    The audio cable that came with the Apex is WORTHLESS. It seems to attenuate about 75% of the loudness out of the signal. When I reached into my "cable stash" to find something different, its audio was just fine. Pic quality looks good, and the s-video is slightly sharper than composite. Pretty subtle difference.

    The Insignia should work with the TiVo, though it's got the (Best Buy-specific?) "-APT" suffix on the model number compared to TiVo's approved list.
     
  8. jrm01

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    The APT model is an updated version of the same Insignia Box (made by LG). They just added one new feature: Analog Pass Thru, hence the suffix APT.
     
  9. ToddNeedsTiVo

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    Well good grief, I guess I didn't work too hard at parsing the additional characters, now, did I?:eek:
     
  10. wmcbrine

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    It's the "Insignia" brand itself that's Best Buy specific. The same unit is sold elsewhere as a Zenith.

    And BTW, "Apex" is not a Best Buy house brand. I thought TheGreenHornet might be implying that it was when he wrote "Best Buy's Apex", but I'm not sure.
     
  11. TiVoJerry

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    Well now, lemme just go proactive and save you some guessing!:eek:

    Access DTA1010D 10094
    Apex DT250 10098

    Cadence DTVC9 10097
    Channel Master CM-7000 10092
    Coship N9988T 10095
    Digital Stream DTX9000/DTX9950 UNSUPPORTED
    G.E. 22729 10102
    Insignia NS-DXA1 10090
    Lasonic LTA-260 10091
    Magnavox TB100MW9 10086
    Microgem MGMG2000 10096
    Motorola DSR-550 UNSUPPORTED
    Philco TB100HH9 10101
    RCA DTA800 10087
    Sansonic FT-300A 10091
    Tivax STB-T9 10103
    Venturer STB7766G 10093
    Winegard RC-DT09 10099
    Zenith DTT900/DTT901 10090
     
  12. Shawn95GT

    Shawn95GT Tivo, in HD!

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    Wow - Motoorola unsupported! I bet it's something with the sub-channel tuning :).
     
  13. TiVoJerry

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    Nah. That's just an old VOOM sat receiver that someone asked about. We didn't want to bother with an out-of-date model that is not solely intended for use as a digital antenna converter.
     
  14. gastrof

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    Potato and pen.

    Funny. I know of someone who had pretty good success controling his Voom box with a TiVo.

    Don't believe there was any hacking either.

    Now...who could that have been....

    Ummm...

    Shawn? Do you remember? ;)
     
  15. TiVoJerry

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    Ah the fine line between "it works" and "it's supported". We weren't going to take the time to test it, but if there's an IR code that works without the delimiter I'll be happy to put that on our list as "reportedly works with <nnnnn>".
     
  16. ronorr

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    I have an unactivated series 2 that has software 9.3 which I understand will lock up when try to configure with an antenna. I see the prioriy page lets you ack for 9.3c which will fix the scan lock up problem. If I activate service will I immediately get the software version that will allow antenna configuration.

    Thanks, Ron
     
  17. TiVoJerry

    TiVoJerry Ex-Caavo employee (Ex-TiVo, '00-'16)

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    Upgrading does not require service. All units that connect to the service will update to the latest version they are auth'd for.
     
  18. ronorr

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    Well, I have done just that so I will wait for 9.3c or 9.3.1. Wish me luck. When I get a software update I will reestablish my service.

    Actually, I established active service on 26 July for this series 2. 9.3 was pushed to my box and I could no longer configure the antenna scan without the scan freeze problem. I called tech support and they kept giving me the "wait 3 days" mantra. No sofeware though. Every level 1 and 2 tech rep (well meaning but useless) said they had no way of forcing a software download and would not go up the food chain until they found someone who could. On 11 Aug I called up tivo and said either force the download or I will discontinue the (useless) service. The rep made one more query to his level 2 with no useful result so I canceled service. Paying a fee for useless subsciption did not appeal.

    The Tivo Priority request page for 9.3c (the only one active that I can find) has two broken links on it.

    Ron

     
  19. TiVoJerry

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    I'm sorry you ran into this issue. I've inquired as to why the software priority requests for 9.3c have not been processed this last week and will also look into the broken links.

    If you'll send me a PM with your case and TSN info, I'll look into getting you auth'd and coach the agents who mishandled your case.

     
  20. Amiga

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    TiVoJerry can you please enlighten the folks here who own an EchoStar / DISH Network DTV DTVPal on whether you plan on supporting or not supporting the puppy? I'm hoping the lawsuit isn't holding back potential support of this product.
     

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