How will Tivo Series 2 sets be able to tune the upcoming DTV Broadcast Converters?

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  1. Aug 6, 2008 #621 of 943
    larkor

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    You're right, a S3 would be good choice. However at the moment my old S2 is in my daughter's room hooked up to an old SD Sony and most of her programs are transferred from other S2s connected to DISHs.
     
  2. Aug 6, 2008 #622 of 943
    zarchon69

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    Near the end of August, tivo will relase a software upgrade for series 2 that will enable you to change channels on converter box via ir blasters. You will have to re-run guided setup and redo all your season passes as well as if the conveter box has a sleep mode, you will have to disable that function
     
  3. Aug 6, 2008 #623 of 943
    tkoyn

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    Why will it be necessary to redo the season passes? These are not erased now if I repeat guided setup.
     
  4. Aug 6, 2008 #624 of 943
    jlac839

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    I suspect that you will have to redo your season passes because the channel numbers may change when you tune via the CECB box. Season passes are tied to specific channels (I think). I guess that in those cases where the channel number is the same on both analog and digital transmissions it may not be necessary to redo those passes. If you've got everything programmed via wishlists then that's a different scenario and you probably won't have to alter them.
     
  5. Aug 6, 2008 #625 of 943
    TiVoJerry

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    Unfortunately, no. So very few people would fall into this situation after the changeover that we won't be offering the option to perform both.

    Since the majority of converters will not tune to analog channels or perform passthrough, it was not practical to build in the support for NTSC and ATSC channels simultaneously (in the same "lineup") when using a converter. The DVR will only pull up an ATSC lineup when set up to use antenna w/box.

    The station identifiers will be different for ATSC channels. A Season Pass for a program on KQED would not carry over to KQEDHD or KQEDDT.
     
  6. Aug 6, 2008 #626 of 943
    restart88

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    Are you thinking that you couldn't use a S3 with a SD set or that you couldn't use MRV?

    It seems to me that if anything the availability of the external HD on a S3 would be a blessing.
     
  7. Aug 6, 2008 #627 of 943
    gastrof

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    Potato and pen.

    As I said, the Dual Tuner TiVos do NOT work with OTA.

    As I also said (*ahem*)

    "As a side point, the Series 2's do not all have the ability to record two shows at once.

    "Traditionally, they were all single tuner machines until the DT model came out."


    I guess you didn't read that part?
     
  8. Aug 6, 2008 #628 of 943
    gastrof

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    Incorrect.

    The Dual Tuner machines don't work with OTA.

    The OTA changeover to digital will have no effect on DT machines at all.

    They only work with cable and satellite.

    The only thing that'll affect DT machines is if a cable system goes all digital. Then the TiVo won't be able to use its onboard analog cable tuner. It'll have to use only an external cable box to get channels.
     
  9. Aug 6, 2008 #629 of 943
    gastrof

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    Potato and pen.
    The question was about a dual tuner machine, which doesn't work with OTA.
     
  10. Aug 6, 2008 #630 of 943
    jrm01

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    And as I said in my next post:

    oops! My bad. :eek:
     
  11. Aug 7, 2008 #631 of 943
    restart88

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    The Dual Tuner machines don't work with OTA.

    The OTA changeover to digital will have no effect on DT machines at all.

    They only work with cable and satellite.


    Mine does. At least for now using the D/A converter box. :D
     
  12. Aug 7, 2008 #632 of 943
    TiVoJedi

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    Unfortunately that path doesn't address uses like me that have a S1 and use satellite + OTA. Upgrading to an HDTiVo means we cannot use our satellite service anymore with TiVo (and we're forced to use a satellite company's DVR, which is not as nice). :(
     
  13. Aug 7, 2008 #633 of 943
    TiVoJedi

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    Todd's website you mentioned is the perfect setup. The new Zenith (DTT901) works too. It has been flawless for me now that I am up and running. The hacking really made it a good solution. I send 3-digit channel tuning for all my locals (primary and subs) off the CECB, whether I need to or not. Works great! I am not sure if Todd posted his altered script he wrote for me that allows for CECB + Satellite tuner on the same TiVo, but in your case the script he has up there is what you'd use.
     
  14. Aug 7, 2008 #634 of 943
    atmuscarella

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    I had the same thing with two Series 2 TiVos one with OTA + sat STB and the other OTA only, plus a Dish DVR. I ended up taking a TiVo HD offer from TiVo and dumped the Sat DVR and stopped using the Series 2 TiVos for OTA, now I have TiVo HD OTA, Series 2 + Sat STB, and another Series 2 with nothing connected to it. Getting the TiVo HD kind of help push me into getting a great HD TV. I had thought about connecting one of those digital tuner boxes to the Series 2 (I have one I purchased a walmart). But honestley now that I have the TiVo HD with dual tuners and a HD TV I don't see much use for it.

    Thanks,
     
  15. Aug 7, 2008 #635 of 943
    Todd Miller

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    Yup, the scripts on my site have been updated to handle DBS + CECB configurations. Now that the new IR remote slice is out (which has codes for lots of CECBs), it should be possible to support more than just the Zenith CECBs with some minor changes.
     
  16. Aug 7, 2008 #636 of 943
    tvcn

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    I am guessing that the additional support is possible because the IR CECB codes for Series 2 Tivos will also work in Series 1 Tivos. Or did I guess wrong ?
     
  17. Aug 7, 2008 #637 of 943
    locomodem

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    We've been using a Series 2 DT with regular OTA antenna for years. I guess we tricked it and told it we had cable, but it worked like a charm.
     
  18. Aug 7, 2008 #638 of 943
    Adam1115

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    Just buy a used 540 series 2 and you'll be all set. ;)

    They keyword is SUPPORTS, not works.

     
  19. Aug 7, 2008 #639 of 943
    Todd Miller

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    The CECB remote codes are already present (as component 6) in the latest IR remote slice on the Series1 TiVos. They just aren't used for anything on the Series1.
     
  20. Aug 9, 2008 #640 of 943
    David_NC

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    When someone actually gets the new software, will they please post which IR code goes with which CECB?
     

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