How will Tivo Series 2 sets be able to tune the upcoming DTV Broadcast Converters?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by 056557, Nov 24, 2007.

  1. TiVoJerry

    TiVoJerry Ex-Caavo employee (Ex-TiVo, '00-'16)

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    Since there's only one TiVo person that fits the bill, let me state right now that the aforementioned person was me. Let me also clarify that my intention was to let you know that we are investigating the issue. I am not trying to set any expectations at this point in time by making any statement about what will or won't happen. We're scoping the situation out....that's as far as it goes right now.

    We'll be publishing a very short statement to this same effect on our website within the next day or so. It will link from the article titled "What Kind of TV Source Does My TiVo DVR Work With?" once we've gotten a few bugs worked out with the new website design. Once it's published, it will be the page we'd update whenever appropriate.
     
  2. bicker

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    Thanks for the clarification.

    Folks should therefore expect no support for DTV converters, until TiVo (or Jerry :)) says "yes, you can now expect something".
     
  3. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Thanks for investigating this issue. Shows good faith as opposed to doing nothing. :up:
    If it turns out supporting converter boxes is impossible, let us know ASAP so we don't waste the coupons on boxes we can't use. :)
     
  4. TiVoJerry

    TiVoJerry Ex-Caavo employee (Ex-TiVo, '00-'16)

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    Will do.
     
  5. MickeS

    MickeS Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather hear about some new upgrade program for existing LT subscribers. :)
     
  6. Todd Miller

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    For what it's worth, I managed to get my Series1 TiVo to work pretty well with a Zenith DTT900 the other day. I did a little write-up on the process, but be forewarned that it does require shell access to the TiVo and utilized TiVoWebPlus. The channel changing is not speedy, but it seems to work well enough for me.
     
  7. JanellZ71

    JanellZ71 New Member

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    I am interested in using the Digital Stream DTX9900 converter box with either my Series2 or Toshiba Tivo Series2 for OTA reception. Has anyone figured out a workaround solution with the IR blasters and this particular CECB unit? If so, could you post some step-by-step instructions for setup?
     
  8. renkablue

    renkablue New Member

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    LOVE THIS THREAD -cause I have a S2- and I am not looking forward to cancelling my subscription in February 2009. I hope the engineers will be able to fix something.
     
  9. BobCamp1

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    If I were you guys, I would wait as long as possible before ordering coupons or buying a box. It may turn out that only SOME of these boxes will be compatible with Tivo.

    Besides, if Tivo decides not to support this feature, you OTA users will want to use the coupon with the Echostar TR-50.
     
  10. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    Partial "support" has been demonstrated with some OTA boxes (at least RCA and Zenith) and a cable or satellite lineup.
    Being that is a DVR, it is ineligible for a coupon discount.

    I'd wait a bit, but not too long, and get one of the ones that have the afomentioned demonstrated "support", and use it that way, or make a hardware convertor, to fully change channels using existing cable or satellite guide data.
     
  11. fallingwater

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    If TiVo doesn't enable a completely simple control method not requiring computer or even television skills, it might as well forget it. Most people using Converter Coupons won't have fancy stuff, just an older TiVo, the Converter Box, and most likely a CRT TV!

    TiVo's gotta' decide whether to support the mass-market OTA audience or forget it and let it migrate to whereever it will. Echostar (in either its satellite or OTA flavors) or the cable companies will be glad to p/u the slack.
     
  12. OTA4EVR

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    I just got off the phone with Tivo Customer support and was told that in order to get Tivo to recognize the converter box/channels that I just need to run guided set up. I did this last month when I bought and installed the box and Tivo only saw Channel 3, and whatever station the box was tuned to.

    Any updates on a Tivo announcement or any instructions on how to get my Tivo Series 2 to play with the Zenith DTT900?

    Thanks!
     
  13. JanellZ71

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    The RjTECH RJ-900ATSC Digital TV Tuner has a serial port (I am not a fan of the IR blasters). However, I do not see any codes for this unit in the Tivo Guided Setup. This is not a coupon-eligible converter box, but if we can get it to play nice with the Series 2, then a problem is solved.
    [​IMG]
     
  14. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I have the Insignia converter box, as long as you exclude sub-channels hitting "9" changes the channel to 9-1.

    I wonder if any cable box / sat box listed in the S2 will control it...?
     
  15. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    the current answer from TiVo on this is buried in another thread(too busy to go find it).
    Basically TiVo is looking at this issue and working out if they will add support or not. So the
    good news is there is active work on this issue.
    Bad news is the answer could still go either way
     
  16. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    JanellZ71: Why is that box not coupon-eligible? It looks like it's limited to standard-def outputs, like a CECB has to be. In fact it looks like it was intended to be a CECB in all respects.
     
  17. JanellZ71

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    Hey wmcbride - I do not know why the RJ-900ATSC is not included on the NTIA CECB list. Subsequently, I have discovered that the Tivax STB-T9 Set Top Box also has a Serial Port, Smart antenna connector, and is coupon eligible. My ultimate goal is to continue to use my S2 OTA with a converter box that has serial port capability (because I do not like to mess around with the IR blasters). This may be a lot to ask for, but I figure that I still have almost 10 months to find a solution to the problem.
     
  18. classicsat

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    I think the fact it tunes QAM might be it, plus that obvious serial port (if they are against CECB rules), and whatever that other thing is (modular jack between the RF jacks and the A/V out).

    I doubt the TiVo will control any of those boxes with serial, unless they use a serial protocol TiVo already supports, or TiVo adds the series protocol used (which IMHO will be a fat chance, since it is hard enough to get them to support the boxes to begin with).
     
  19. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    Serial ports aren't against the rules. I think the modular jack is for a "smart antenna", which is something that's specifically allowed. (The CECBs look to be the first devices that support these, surprisingly enough.)
     
  20. kb7oeb

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    The smart antenna is actually pretty cool and is a good pair with a dvr in areas with lots of multipath. Basically the antenna electronically focuses itself into the best position based on feedback from the STB.
     

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