how well does ota work on a tivo Premiere?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by tootal2, Sep 11, 2011.

  1. MrJedi

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    I have only owned a Premier, but I will say compared to my TV's tuner, the Premier's tuner is not as good. A station that has dropouts on my Tivo, will be clear when using the TV's tuner. I have an amplified splitter going to both and the only variable is the tuner (well and the hard drive, etc). I have done some tweaking with antenna positioning lately, and the Tivo has gotten better, but still not as rock solid as my TV.

    By no means would I say don't buy a Premier, I'm just saying in my experience there are better tuners out there. YMMV.
     
  2. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    You can use a Premiere OTA only for 9.99/month.
     
  3. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

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    What TV do you have (make and model)? Do you know what tuner chip it uses? Thanks.
     
  4. VideoGrabber

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    Can you? Or must you buy a new Premiere, and activate it with the ANTENNA code for a year, to get that rate? I've only seen the later option, and the CSR I talked to told me the former doesn't exist.
     
  5. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    If your Premiere is already activated, you're out of luck.
    It is true that the $9/mo antenna only promo is only good for new activations, and the $9/mo charge will remain indefinitely as long as you never connect the Premiere to a cable outlet.
     
  6. Puppy76

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    I'm really surprised and disappointed that that "Elite" model doesn't support ATSC/over the air. I'm not sure if I would have bought one right this minute or not, but it would have been a no brainer replacement if one of my two goes.

    Apparently it costs more to include support, or something? Don't know why else they wouldn't.

    USUALLY 2 tuners is enough, but (for example) later this month we get Fringe, Supernatural, and Grimm, all at the same time...if not something else too.

    That's really disappointing to hear. I've had such great results from my HD XL :) Soooooooooo glad to be rid of Comcast.

    Personally I'd only ever do it with lifetime. It pays for itself quickly even if it's $13/month or whatever.
     
  7. VideoGrabber

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    Thanks, Steve. But my Premiere has never been activated, beyond the 30-day Trial period, when I canceled service. I was still told no by the CSR. And when I tried to add the ANTENNA code on their webpage, it auto-reverts (rejects it).

    Anyway, the whole experience with this Premiere (100% negative) has me contemplating flushing all the TiVos out of my home, and going with another solution. Not saying I will, just that after 12 years with TiVos, and all the years spent doing Beta-testing for them (hundreds of man-hours for free), this is the first time it's seriously crossed my mind.
     
  8. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    No, it was activated and then you cancelled service.
    The promo code works only for units that have never been activated.
     
  9. Jeff_DML

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    bump, about to cut the satellite cord for OTA. Based on this thread it seems the ATSC tuners are not necessarily good or bad, anybody want to chime in with new feedback?

    TIA
     
  10. Puppy76

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    Nothing new to add. I'm still happy with my Terk FDTV1A, though I don't know if it's the best indoor antenna or not. It's better than my Terk 55 is, at any rate.

    Probably depends a lot on your area, but with my current antenna, I get nearly perfect reception, and have 11 channels that come in perfectly, and about 4 that are a little iffy, but mostly work (and 2 more that are duplicates from another market).

    At any rate, I'm still very very happy with my setup, my Tivos, the video quality, and my lack of any monthly bill! :)
     
  11. Jeff_DML

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    thanks, I got a external 2 antenna setup on my roof, CM4228 and AC Y5-7-13. I have had some multipath issues before so that is my main concern.

    no tv bill sounds nice:up:
     
  12. L David Matheny

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    As I've said before, I think the OTA tuners in the Premiere are quite good, and the handling of multipath seems to be greatly improved when compared to the TiVo HD.
     
  13. Jeff_DML

    Jeff_DML Member

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    nice, thanks:up:
     
  14. newsposter

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    my new premiere is much better than my hr10250....so good that it picks up a vhf 6 when i only have a uhf antenna. it's not perfect but it's watchable with just a few dropouts. sometimes it's even reliable :)
     
  15. Spiky

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    So, mine showed up pre-activated or something. Does that mean I'm screwed on the code?
     
  16. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I assume you bought your Premiere directly from TiVo?
    If so, I would guess it came pre-activated as TiVo usually sells the DVR bundled with service.

    Look at the System Information screen. What does it say next to "TiVo Account Status"?
     
  17. jfh3

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    Call TiVo and ask.
     
  18. Spiky

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    Thanks, I did call this morning. They added the discount for me. First time dealing with standalone Tivos for me. They probably should have a place to enter coupons in their checkout, though, since they offer coupons.
     
  19. phone man

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    Hello, I just ordered a Tivo premiere thru Antennas Direct. With the current OTA only promotion coming to an end soon, I decided it was time to act. In July I cancelled service with TWC. Two days later a call from their retention sales rep convinced me to stay with them a while longer. The bill went from $88 to $39 for 12 months. Anyway, I figure the savings is paying for the new CM 4228 antenna, CPA-19 preamp and new coax. It's been 20 years since I've had OTA TV but I have to say I'm extremely impressed with the PQ.

    Even with 2 edge reception and Columbus broadcast towers 40 to 65 miles away, I have excellent signal strength for the major networks so I don't anticipate any problems for those even if the Tivo premiere tuner isn't quite as good as the one in my Sony. I am a bit concerned about the weaker stations I receive. Currently I reliably receive the CW station even with a signal of -2.8 NM(dB), and 80% of the time I can get a low powered independent despite the -12.7 NM(dB) signal strength.
    I've read many comparisons between the series 3 and series 4 Tivo tuners but I would like to hear from those who have made direct comparisons between the ATSC tuners in their HDTVs and the series 4 Tivo.
    With limited time to assess the Tivo before the promotion runs out, I'll likely install a 2 way splitter for quick comparisons of the Tivo vs my TV tuner. Having a nice DVR is key to breaking away from TWC completely.
     
  20. L David Matheny

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    When I got my Mitsubishi LT-46131 LCD TV several years ago, I thought its reception was quite good. When I got a TiVo HD a couple of years later, its reception was comparable. (It may even use the same chips.) I think the Premiere uses the same tuner chip but a better demodulator chip. Overall reception is similar, but the Premiere gets far fewer errors on a couple of local stations with severe multipath. I like the Premiere a lot. And I've always been OTA only.
     

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