How well Can Tivo be controlled by Alexa?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Puppy76, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    I would guess it's a case of Vudu not letting you buy from the app on ATV because Apple takes a ~30% cut if they let that happen. At least I know some other services like Netflix do not let people subscribe through iOS for the same reason.
     
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  2. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Could be. Do Google and Amazon do the same thing? What about Roku?
     
  3. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    Yeah Amazon and Google also take a cut of what is sold through their stores. Fortnite isn't sold through the Google store because Google takes 30%.

    Don't know if Roku operates the exact same way. I know they put ads on their UI and make money from the buttons on the remote among other things.
     
  4. JandS

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  5. Puppy76

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    I STILL can't decide what to do! And heck, I like The Roku Channel's content too, which is basically Roku only.

    Both the FireTV and Roku Ultra are on sale, probably ending today, but can I make up my mind? NOOOO.

    EDIT: Although I just read an article about Amazon's Ring devices giving access to your feeds to employees in the Ukraine, and it makes me...even more hesitant about any of Amazon's smart stuff. Maybe I shouldn't, but I trust Roku more, and Apple the most.
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    All my Ring devices point outside, so nothing those Ukrainian guys could really see anyway. I've always been a bit leary of cameras inside the house. I do have one Chinese one, Yi Home I think, that I use to check on my dogs when I'm out but I don’t pay for any of the recording features and I typically point it at the wall when I'm not using it so that I'll hopefully notice when it's moved.
     
  7. HerronScott

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    Nothing here with our 1st generation Fire TV and in fact I've never seen it create a network like that so no There are 2 menu options under Network settings to join Network with WPS (button on router and PIN).

    Looks like 2nd generation Fire TV is probably what you are talking about as it supports WiFi Direct and uses WiFi for the remote (DIRECT-FF-FireTV-xxxx). Seems this is for the remote so I would expect they would limit connections to their remotes. Could you actually connect to it with your laptop?

    Scott
     
  8. Puppy76

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    Yeah, it’s just left in pairing mode...or at least it was years ago. My first gen unit didn’t start out doing that, but a patch in the second half of the first year left it like that, as were the second gen units as I understood it. I never understood why they cared about adding WiFi direct anyway, when it worked fine with Bluetooth.

    everything I’m seeing is conflicting with the current gen models. Their documentation almost sounds like it no longer does this with pairing mode, yet support articles from third parties act like it can jut pair at any time. It almost sounds like they’ve dumped WiFi direct entirely, except then they talk about using it for the recast dvr.

    I missed the $20 off sale and still can’t decide. Do NOT trust my Apple, google, or Microsoft credentials to be used on firetv or Roku (or Tivo for that matter). I don’t trust their security.
     
  9. Charles R

    Charles R Well-Known Member

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    Not sure why I'm posting again as it didn't help last time... I have a Fire TV 4K and it has no active Wi-Fi network and only pairs via its menu. It will reconnect a paired device during start-up (within a few seconds). If it helps I have forty years in IT. :)

    Also you can go to the 711 (secret) menu and configure/override Wi-Fi settings.
     
  10. HerronScott

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    Just because it's broadcasting an SSID doesn't mean it's in pairing mode, but even if it was, was it allowing pairing from a PC or just remotes. If just remotes, who cares.

    Scott
     
  11. Puppy76

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    it was, and yes, it’s open to anything.
     
  12. rcoates777

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    I just got an Echo Dot (Alexa). I am running the "classic" interface on my TiVo Bolt. I see no Alexa App in my Apps list. Is this only available under TE4 or .... ? Thanks!
     
  13. NorthAlabama

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    it was available on te3 & te4, discontinued 8/25:

     
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  14. rcoates777

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    "Missed it by that much!" (Maxwell Smart)

    Thanks!
     

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