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Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by hinsdale, Dec 21, 2001.
It was a great answer too!
How-to has been updated:
For those upgraders with March 6 previous version, there was no change to content requiring re-print, only form was changed in regards to upgrade offer.
Cmon, feldon23, he already said he regretted deleting it. I don't see the harm.
If it was taking a wrong turn it was his decision to make.
edit: dang, forgot why i originally wanted to post!
Many thanks Hinsdale. Your how-to has been extremely helpful
Also, thanks to all that contributed to it by actually performing, by trial and error, all that work.
Would be nice if they had the option to lock their threads instead of deleting them.
First, thanks for the great instructions and making all the software easily available. About a month ago I added an 80 Gig B drive to my Sony T-60 Direct tivo and got 105 hours. As nice as this is, I'd now like to replace the A drive with another 80 Gig Drive. I backed up the 40 gig A drive prior to adding the B drive. Reading page 2 paragraph one about previously upgraded Tivos, I am not sure how to best proceed. I would like to back up the current A drive since I have added some season passes and then restore this to the new 80 Gig A drive. However, I am unclear if this will work. My question is, can I backup the A drive and restore it to the new 80 Gig B drive even though it has been used with a B drive, or do I need to restore the previous backup of the A drive that was made prior to adding a B drive. After restoring a backup to the new 80 Gig A drive, I still want to connect the recently installed 80 Gig B drive so I will have a total of 160 Gigs. Do I need to Bless the existing B drive again?
A review of the instructions makes it sound like if I backup the current A drive, which is used to working with the B drive, then when I do a restore, the restore will only restore to a 120 gig drive, since the A drive image is set to work on 80+40 (120). Or, do I need to do a two drive backup, even though I don't want to save my recorded programs?
Download and burn nuboot6.iso (found at step 4)
You will need to connect both drives and use the instruction at Step 7) Option #2 - to create a divorced image
Restore this image to one of the 80GB drives - Step 8)
Test the restored image - Step 9)
Run DTiVoMad 4 to expand A and rebless B - instructions at
Step 10) Upgrade configuration #2
Hinsdale performed his wonderful magic on my 40 hour stand alone machine. Now I have a 184.5 hour TiVo through the addition of a discount Gateway [Maxtor] 120 gig drive. Hinsdale calmed me down when I thought that UPS had lost my TiVo in transit because there was [no] activity during the week logged in the UPS tracking log. Fortunately all turned out OK. Well sort of OK. Despite my fragile, electronics inside warning stickers all over the shipping box UPS managed to poke a good sized hole in one side of the shipping box. Through all of this I know that it is perfectly OK to love your TiVo and Hinsdale's talents and hate UPS.
About six months ago, I upgraded my Philips 30 hour TiVo unit by adding a 100GByte Maxtor hard drive. This was part of a kit that I purchased from 9thTee. As suggested, I backed up the tiVo's original 30GByte prior to installing the second drive. The install was completely successful, and I have been enjoying the increased capacity since then.
Unfortunately, I have been experiencing a problem with my TiVo losing sound and video sporadically (see the "No sound - until restart" thread in the TiVo Help Center). The problem has gotten so bad that I finally contacted TiVo and received authorization to return the unit for repair or replacement.
Yesterday, I removed the second hard drive and attempted to restore the backed up image onto the original hard drive so that I could send in my TiVo back in it's original state. Here is where my trouble is.
When I attemped to restore the image to Drive A, I received a message that there was insufficient room on the drive. So I decided to format the drive under windows and try again - big mistake! The Original drive is a Maxtor (Quantum) Fireball LCT 15 and Windows will only format it as a 9.4Gbyte drive!! I tried every bios setting that I could think of, but still could not get windows to see the drive as having a 30GByte capacity.
My backed up image is still intact on my backup drive, but I need help in transferring it back to the original TiVo drive.
Can anyone out there offer a suggestion? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
have you tried the quonlock utility on the original drive yet?
(see Hinsdale's How-To)
these sound like the "locked drive" symptoms found in many previous posts.
Thank you! I will try this as soon as I get home from work tonight!
So, how long 'til it becomes sticky again?
Today I built a swing set for my toddler and upgraded a stock DTiVo to 106 hours (WD 80gb). Both projects went flawlessly.
<insert Tim Allen "Home Improvement" grunt here>
My thanks to Hinsdale, TiVoMad, Tiger, Kazmyr, and my father-in-law (he helped with the swing set).
Well I thought I had convinced myself to just buy the upgrade kit and be done with it. But yesterday I spent most of my free time reading the How-To guide to make sure that I knew what to do if I was going to tackle the upgrade myself.
After reading, it sounded simple enough if everything worked and I decided to try it.
On my way home I stopped at CompUSA and picked up a Maxtor 80 GB 536X DiamondMax drive and was ready to take the plunge. From the prices I saw online, I didn't think $139 was too bad and I am Mr. impatient, once I make a decision I want it NOW.
Everything went smoothly after I figured out the cryptic jumper diagram on the Quantum 40 GB drive that came with my receiver (DSR6000). I now have a new B drive giving me a total of 108 hrs.
I know my way around the computer pretty well and was a software engineer using UNIX in a past life (10 yrs ago) so I could follow the directions easily. but I can see that they are very well thought out and useful for the novice user as well, great job.
Many thanks to hinsdale, et al. Great How-to guide!!!
Maybe in the future if I find 108 hours too little, I'll try to upgrade the A drive also.
I am so grateful to all those people who put it the hard work so that we don't have to! My sincere thanks goes to each and everyone of you who hacked all night instead of sleeping, who knew it could be done and who did it!
A special huge thanks goes to hinsdale for such a great document. Wouldn't have upgraded with out it!
Thanks Hinsdale, your doc is EXCELLENT. I had a little issue because fat partition was a couple steps deep but once I figured out with hd* to use, everything went flawlessly.
Thanks Kazymyr for getting all the tools on a bootable CD iso, and making it available for all.
First a big Thanks to Hinsdale for the very clear instructions and the quick answer to the question I posted recently. I have now upgraded my Sony T-60 twice. First I installed an 80 Gig B drive, then today I installed an 80 Gig A drive for a total of 160 Gigs and (up to) 140 hours of storage. I followed Hinsdale's instructions and everything worked perfectly the first time. Now I am wondering about the original 40 Gig A Drive, which was used with the 80 Gig B drive. If I were to remove the 80 Gig A drive and re-connect the 40 Gig A drive along with the 80 Gig B drive, would the Tivo work and show 105 hours as it did previously? Would it matter if the B drive that is now in the Tivo was not connected to the original 40 Gig A drive? I took the B drive that was in the Tivo and restored the backup to it and it is now being used as the A drive. The new 80 Gig drive that arrived today is being used as the B drive.
So, how long 'til it becomes sticky again? Otto?
I'll just echo my thanks to everyone who put together instructions, hints, and software tools. My Hughes GXCEBOT now has the original 40GB disk plus a second 80MB disk. I will share two hints with everyone:
1. Be careful of metal edges inside the case! I got a nice 1/2" slash on my index finger while I was pulling out the power cable from the hard drive. (Not the first time I've been cut by computer hardware... the old Zeos PCs from the early 90s were especially vicious if you weren't careful.)
2. DON'T FORGET TO REATTACH THE POWER WIRES FOR THE COOLING FAN! I forgot, and everything looked great, and my wife & I went out about an hour later and left the kids with a babysitter, and when we came home there was a blue screen saying it had closed down because the maximum internal operating temperature had been reached.
My thanks to everyone who worked on this as well, esp. Hinsdale. And I second the reminder about re-connecting the fan. I watched the upgraded machine as it nudged up to 50C, then 55C, then 61C, and on to 71C. At that point, I shut it down, supposing I had forgotten to hook up the fan, and I was right. Stable now at 52C, just 3 degreesz above its unmodified operating temp.
I upgraded my Sony T-60 Directv Tivo on Tuesday afternoon March 19, 2002. The upgrade consisted of backing up the A and B drive using MFS Tools 1.1 restoring to the new drive and using the appropriate version of TivoMad to expand the A drive and re-bless the B drive. I had previously added an 80 Gig B drive and now replaced the original 40 gig A drive with a another 80 gig drive. Both Drives are Maxtor drives. I noticed on Thursday the Tivo Showcase for the Francis Ford Coppola interview. When I selected the interview, the time bar comes up on the bottom of the screen, showing 0 on the left side and 5 on the right side, but it doesn't play. After a few seconds the time bar goes away and nothing happens. It appears to me that the Tivo can't find this file. Could it be that the file was received before the upgrade and is not included in the limited backup? Does anyone know when the video file was sent? Is there some reason that Tivo Showcase files don't work after replacing the A drive in a Tivo? If this is a problem cause by the upgrade, does anyone have any suggestions as to how to fix what ever the problem may be? The Tivo works great otherwise and shows that it now has up to 140 hours of storage. I do notice that the fan, which I previously replaced with a quieter one from 1 cool PC seems to be running faster as it is a little louder than it was before. The temperature has stayed the same at 48c.
UPDATED Information. As of Sunday morning there are new show case clips and then all show and work properly. Problem must have not had anything to do with the upgrade. I assume that the original clip must have been received before I changed the orignal A drive.
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