How-To Upgrade your TiVo

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by hinsdale, Dec 21, 2001.

  1. Feb 19, 2002 #101 of 1590
    chefmitch

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    Just wanted to thank Hinsdale and everyone else who helped my upgrade (HDR212) goes smoothly. I added an 80GB hard drive and the TiVo is now Fat and Happy!

    Cheers!

    Mitch
     
  2. Feb 20, 2002 #102 of 1590
    flynxx

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    A friend and I decided to upgrade our T-60's, so we attacked it last weekend. Since I'm a Mac person, he was nice enought to drag his PC with him.

    We popped the top off his first. (The two hands on top, push back works great.) After a few false starts, we managed to copy his 40GB drive to an 80GB Maxtor and bless another 80GB Maxtor. Everything went fine. One down, one to go.

    When I popped the top off mine, I discovered it was a two drive TiVo. I resigned myself to 'loosing' my recorded shows, and we proceeded to following Hinsdale's instructions to upgrade a two drive.

    Flawless. I copied the image to a 80GB Maxtor, expanded the drive and blessed a 120GB Maxtor.

    Now it reports up to 190 hours.

    I was so happy, that I changed to a Lifetime sub.

    Thanks to all that made this so easy to do.
     
  3. Feb 21, 2002 #103 of 1590
    Babylon5

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    Hinsdale, Thanks for your good directions.

    Question for you guys.

    I Upgraded my Sony 30hr TiVo about a week ago with two WD 80GB drives. They are 7200 but that is what we have (read I have access to). The system temp seems fine with these in there, and runs at around 33C. Aside from temp do the 5400rpm run more reliably?

    I did this about a week ago and one HD is going bad already. Yesterday the TiVo paused a few times on the video and at the same time started with a clicking noise. I know that sound. So one HD must be going bad already. Since I just did this last week it is not a huge deal to replace the drive. I have a spare. The TiVo really beats the hell out of HD’s :)

    My question is I have not pulled the cover yet to see if it is the Master (A) or Slave(B) drive.
    What are my options?

    If it is the A drive do I just restore from my backup image to it then put it back in.? What about the data already on the B drive? Do I need to re-bless it? That is fine but will it just work like when I first upgraded? Will the data on the B drive simply be ignored and overwritten?

    Then if it is the B drive that is going bad do I just put a new drive in? I guess just bless it first? Will the original A drive be confused with a new drive slapped in. With the new drive all the programming would be all messed up right and confuse it right?

    What is the best way to recover from this? Do I need to get two brand new drives and start from scratch first?

    I wish the TiVo had a way to shut off the live TV recording for times when you really don’t need it to be running like overnight. It would give the read/write heads a break. Keep it spinning of course 8o)

    Thanks in advance.

    -Jace
     
  4. Feb 21, 2002 #104 of 1590
    bbalfour

    bbalfour Avid TiVo User

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    :D Just wanted to thank Hinsdale and everyone. I borrowed a friends PC (I'm a Mac guy) and we upgraded my 20 hr unit in about an hour today. No I've got a 65hr TiVo and I'm happy as a clam.
     
  5. Feb 22, 2002 #105 of 1590
    Adam_M

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    Thank you Hinsdale, tivocommunity.com and everyone else that made this possible! I replaced my 14 hour drive with a 80gig Maxtor and it’s now reporting 91 hours basic!

    Adam
     
  6. Feb 23, 2002 #106 of 1590
    hinsdale

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    For those that asked me to post when available:

    The upgrade kits are now also offered for the new Series 2 TiVo DVR and AT&TiVo as well as all standard Philips, Sony, and Hughes model standalones and DirecTiVos and will include appropriate CD backup image for your model.

    Those with Hughes GXCEBOT, AT&TiVo, and TiVo Series 2 DVR will also receive the required dual IDE (ATA100) cable and Y power adapter with their upgrade kit.
     
  7. Feb 25, 2002 #107 of 1590
    Babylon5

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    Hey Guys,
    Let me re-ask it this way. If I need to start over can I just restore the image back to the A drive (if A is bad) then tell it I have a B drive and let it re-bless (if B is bad) it? Will the data currently on them both simply be written over? Does TiVo during this process over write any data and just re-use the drive?

    It really has not clicked lately at all since that night. Maybe it was just a fluke but I need to know for the time it does go bad. It has to at some point :)
     
  8. Feb 26, 2002 #108 of 1590
    tgmii

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    I just upgraded my vintage tivo (14 hours) with an 80 gig drive! Couldn't be more painless....

    Thanks to hinsdale and all the good advice in this forum.

    I'll be ordering the second drive bay kit, for the next time Compusa-Bestbuy-staples-officemax has a big sale on drives.

    My favorite part was TivoMaddening the drives. :D

    Tom Madden
     
  9. Feb 26, 2002 #109 of 1590
    bsnelson

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    Looks like this thread lost it's "stickyness". Could a kind modulator, er, uh, moderator please "stick it"? :D

    Brad
     
  10. Feb 26, 2002 #110 of 1590
    hinsdale

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    David has a new sponsor and the temporary upgrade offer mentioned in the How-To apparently ruffled some feathers so it has been set-free.

    The How-To may not be sticky anymore.. but will continue to be up-to-date and hopefully thorough.. just have to search alittle harder to locate.
     
  11. Feb 26, 2002 #111 of 1590
    toolkit

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    Well that kind of sucks.

    I'm glad we have sponsors. This is a valuable forum, and without sponsors, it would die. But I would think that the sponsors wouldn't want to exert any editorial influence. What's next, give them a delete button so they can just delete what they don't like?
     
  12. Feb 26, 2002 #112 of 1590
    hinsdale

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    I would do the same thing in Davids position. He is not saying that the How-To can't be used, just wouldnt be prudent to have competition (small as it may be) highlighted/stickied in the face of paid advertisers.
     
  13. Feb 26, 2002 #113 of 1590
    Darin

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    There are ways to help keep hinsdale's great work visible, even if this thread falls, that don't jeopardize David's relationships with his sponsors.
    ;)
     
  14. Feb 26, 2002 #114 of 1590
    Chris Williams

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    I bought a Sony T60 from an AV dealership I deal with on a regular basis. The only unit they had was an open box, but they insisted that it had been opened just to show the unit to someone. I get it home, set it up. The first few times, it doesn't complete booting, finally it boots. I let it do everything, and it upgrades to 2.5 (I believe). My wife and I use it all through the Olympics. After they are over, I decide to upgrade. I get the Hinsdale How-To. It doesn't cover my specific configuration - I want to put in two new drives. But I figure that it is just a matter of doing a single drive replacement, then adding the second one later.

    I get the CD ISO from the link in the How-To, make the CD. Everything boots, the drive is correctly identified as a 80 gig drive, the original Tivo drive was a 40 gig.

    But here is the nasty part. After I open the drive, I discover that the unit had been opened before. Two of the pins of the IDE connector on the drive had been bent over (the two pins closest to the jumpers) and the plastic barrier had been broken. Some idiot had jammed it it there. I straighten the pins before connecting it to the PC.

    I do a back-up to a freshly FAT32 formatted drive, and everything goes well. The backup is 1.3 gigs. But I want to save the two shows on the disk, so I do the dd step as well.

    When I put the disk (set as Master) in the Tivo, it does not boot. I get an unstable black screen with white dashes at the top (in the vertical blanking interval). I try my original disk. Exact same results. I've tried restoring to another, fresh 80 gig Maxtor disk with the same result.

    Did I wind up with a corrupt backup? I cannot return the unit, as the dealer is in another city.

    Are there any Tivo experts in the city of Chicago (CTA accessible, as I don't own a car) who would be willing to help test this disk? in another unit?
     
  15. Feb 26, 2002 #115 of 1590
    Chris Williams

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    I managed to get a 2.5 image, and restored that to one of my new drives and installed that in the T60 configured as Master. No luck. The same black screen.
     
  16. Feb 26, 2002 #116 of 1590
    Darin

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    I'm sorry, I don't know WHAT your problem is, but I do know that on a DTiVo, you can't use a 2.5 image from another unit. Beginning with version 2.5, the data on the hard drive is "married" to the serial on the unit, so if you want to restore an image to your unit, it either needs to be a 2.5 image from YOUR unit, or a pre-2.5 from someone else. In each case, it needs to be from the Sony.

    However, I thought that you normally got an error, not just a black screen, so that may not be THE issue, but it is AN issue.
     
  17. Feb 26, 2002 #117 of 1590
    Chris Williams

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    I'm getting a virgin 2.0 from the same location, specifically for the Sony T60. I hope this works, but I have no idea why I'm not getting an error either.
     
  18. Feb 26, 2002 #118 of 1590
    Chris Williams

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    I used mfstools to restore the virgin 2.0 to a drive. Still no luck. Black screen, no text. I'm baffled! What am I doing wrong? I've tried the drive on both Master and Cable Select.
     
  19. Feb 27, 2002 #119 of 1590
    Rev

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    I am trying to better understand upgrading my Series 2. When you say you cannot make a larger A drive does that mean you can create a replacement A drive but it is the same size as the old one?? If not then why, during an upgrade do you make a backup of the A when you cannot replace it??


    Another simple question. I have had my series 2 for a month now and have not yet subscribed and It seems to be working fine. Why do I subscribe?? Is it about to stop downloading the guide??

    Final question: I am moving soon to another state and want to know if I will have a local number to download the guide? Can I find a list of the local numbers somewhere?

    Thanks for tolerating a new TIVOManiac!
     
  20. Feb 27, 2002 #120 of 1590
    hinsdale

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    1)If after upgrading with a new large B drive, either of your two drives then develops any problem, your TiVo will no longer function and without backup you will have no remedy. Having a backup allows you to recover from software corruptions, bad blocks, failing hard drives (unit freezes often) or complete disk failures.

    2) You get a free trial period of what used to be about two weeks, and then your guide data is propogated about two weeks out from there so you most likely will be running out of guide data shortly.

    3)Running though the Phone Setup and entering in the new area code will then generate a call to tivo which will subsequently list all the local phone numbers for that area code.
     

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