How-To Upgrade your TiVo

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by hinsdale, Dec 21, 2001.

  1. Feb 6, 2002 #81 of 1590
    uTivo

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    Did you update your PC's BIOS to recognize the 80GB drive..maybe it's still configured for a 30GB drive. Otherwise, your BIOS doesn't support large drives.
     
  2. Feb 6, 2002 #82 of 1590
    dmbong

    dmbong TiVo while Racing...

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    Hey Mike! I had this with a Hughes DTiVo for about a day before I tried something else. It works fine now.

    Originally I did not use MFSTools 1.1 for the backup, but in a retry, I used MFSTools 1.1 for the restore. Also, originally, I used the setup.sh in the mad/ directory rather than the TiVoMad4 stuff. It was all good once I corrected this by restoring with MFST 1.1 and using TM4.

    -Brian
     
  3. Feb 6, 2002 #83 of 1590
    neonleon

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    Actually the bios saw one hd as an 80 but the other 80 as a 30...dunno what was going on...finally solved the prob by switching to my other box...it saw bot drives correctly. Thanks for the reply
     
  4. Feb 6, 2002 #84 of 1590
    synthe

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    In step 8 of your wonderful instructions, where we are restoring our tivo.bak file to our new A drive, is there any reason why we are putting the new A on the PC as primary slave rather than secondary master? I would think that putting it on as secondary master, and changing the command to restore the backup to:

    mfstool restore -zi /mnt/dos/tivo.bak /dev/hdc

    would remove the need to change any jumpers on the drive after we had set it to master.

    Needless to say, I haven't done this process yet, my two 120GB drives will be arriving tomorrow, but I have been reading and rereading the instructions to upgrade to make sure I follow how to do everything, and the original instructions kinda stuck out at me as a needless jumper change.
     
  5. Feb 6, 2002 #85 of 1590
    hinsdale

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    hdc is secondary master.. and that is where you attach the drive.
     
  6. Feb 6, 2002 #86 of 1590
    synthe

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    From your article, in section #8 with the title "Restoring Mfstools backup image" after the indented section it states:
    (sorry about the long quote, but it didn't make sense out of context if I didn't include it all)
    What I am suggesting is that if the person didn't already have their new large upgrade drive attached to primary slave, it would make sense to instead attach it to secondary master, and then do the restore to /dev/hdc, therefore not having to change jumpers around a couple times while moving things back and forth between computer and tivo. Does that make sense?
     
  7. Feb 7, 2002 #87 of 1590
    SuperRob

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    Hinsdale ...

    Thanks for all the great information and help. You're a credit to the TiVo community.

    I have a Series|2 due to show up Friday, and am contemplating your 120GB upgrade. Does it come with the necessary cables (IDE, Power) needed?

    I know I can get a drive for about $200, but $290 for a painless upgrade is tough to beat. If it includes the cables, you may have a sale.

    Shoot me an e-mail if you like.

    Thanks again!
     
  8. Feb 7, 2002 #88 of 1590
    hinsdale

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    Yes the upgrade kit includes the dual port IDE cable and power Y connector when required. However, even though the upgrade kits will function perfectly with the new TiVo Series 2 DVR's - I have not yet gotten my hands on one of these in order to generate a generic virgin backup image. I do have backup images for the Series 2 AT&TiVo and have performed upgrades and shipped upgrade kits for these (and every other Series 1 model of DirecTiVo and Standalone ) but not the new Series 2 DVR. And without a backup image to send along with the upgrade kit, I am not comfortable providing these yet. Hopefully I will be getting one soon, or perhaps one of the many TiVos currently in route for upgrade will be a series 2 and I can generate a generic virgin backup. Should be very shortly, but until then I can only provide the full upgrade option (shipped to me for complete upgrade) and not the upgrade kit for the Series 2 DVR. I will post in the How-To as soon as I get an image.
     
  9. Feb 7, 2002 #89 of 1590
    SuperRob

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    Please do! And could you send me an e-mail as well? You'll have a sale as soon as you can provide the service! :)
     
  10. Feb 8, 2002 #90 of 1590
    hinsdale

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    I was just about to go purchase a couple of the new Series 2 DVRs to have on hand and went to the TiVo website and they were out. They are expecting them in on Feb 14, so should have them shortly and can create a generic backup. Once I have the backup, I will also provide the same upgrade kits for the new TiVo Series 2 DVR that I am providing to everyone for all the other model standalones and DirecTiVos - with CD backup image included for safety.


    How-To Update note: I have upgraded the How-To with added instruction for the TiVo Series 2 and AT&TiVos for all the do-it-yourselfers wanting to get their hands wet in their new fancy TiVos.
     
  11. Feb 9, 2002 #91 of 1590
    chesterdad

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    Well,

    I tried my best to do the Hinsdale upgrade myself (from a single drive Phillips 112 to a 120GB Maxtor 540x). I have had a number of problems, many of which may have contributed to my present state. Here is some history:

    1) I initially burned the CD as instructed and attempted to use that on my system but when I tried to do the mfstool backup step, I received a message about tivo.bak being "read only". I followed some threads that had been contributed, and mentioned that SCSI based CD-ROM's might cause problems, so I started over with the floppy methods as instructed.

    My C drive is multipartioned with the first partion being NTFS, the second FAT32, and so on. I made sure I specified the second partition when issuing the mount command for the C: drive mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/dos

    2) Unfortunately, I didn't STOP the script as instructed in the floppy directions (Stupid me) answering all of the questions. So, after that completed, I started over with the floppy backup process. This seemed to go well, as did the restore onto the Big Maxtor. When I installed the Big Maxtor in the Tivo to test it, I got past the startup to something like "A serious problem has occured" which was a green screen, recommending I connect the phoneline and wait for it to restore for 24 hours.

    3) Figuring something was wrong, I tried the original Tivo Quantum drive and tested that in the Tivo and got the same screen.

    What do I do from here? I was guessing if all else failed i would be able to go back to the original Tivo drive and it would work just fine. Did it somehow get corrupted by running the Tivomad script before doing the backup?

    I don't want to restore the backup to the original Tivo drive if it is going to make things worse, since I don't know how to check the state of the backup. (The restore to the Big Maxtor completed successfully but gave me the Green screen highlighted above, remember.)

    I would love to give this one more shot if I have a reasonable next step before I go to plan B - sending it in to Mr. Regnery. Any ideas?


    My software rev is/was 2.5.1.1-01-1-000


    Thanks,

    jim

    Mr. Regnery also CC'ed
     
  12. Feb 9, 2002 #92 of 1590
    hinsdale

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    Without snooping around in your partitions or seeing exactly what happened it is difficult to diagnose.

    First thing to try is to let the Green Screen work. Its a repair utility and it may recover by itself.

    If you have already booted the mistakenly TiVoMaddened A in your TiVo then trevor's backout program wil not work. You may need to get a new image.. posting a request on the forum often is successful.

    Its more satisying fixing it yourself, but if you get desperate and just want to send the drives, I get these recovered and backout out same or next day.
     
  13. Feb 11, 2002 #93 of 1590
    Tattva

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    I successfully upgraded my Philips 20hr to 112hrs with an 80GB Maxtor 536DX second drive in about an hour via Kazymyr's boot CD, and I just wanted to say thanks to Hinsdale, Kazymyr, and everyone else involved in making this doable.

    For $150 + tax for the unit at Walmart and $130 for the hard drive, this thing was darn cheap.

    In my opinion, I have a more reliable TiVo now than before, because by far the most likely piece to break in a TiVo is the hard drive, and with my backup image I can quickly restore one of the hard drives if the other goes bad.

    Thanks,

    Dave

    [edit]
    One note, upon upgrade, the first thing I tried to do was go to the "Messages and Setup" menu, but every time I clicked on that option I was taken to "Now Showing". I did this a couple of times and then clicked on "Now Showing" and after backing out I could go to "Messages and Setup". Strange but apparently harmless.
     
  14. Feb 13, 2002 #94 of 1590
    tal

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    [snip..snip]

    I too wish to add my testimonial to hinsdale's great howto. The instructions were very clearly laid out.

    Things sure have progressed since I first upgraded my 20hour TiVo earlier last year.

    When I did my first upgrade back I wanted to back up my original 22G drive, so I got a 30G drive and did a diskcopy from the 22G to the 30G wasting 8G plus the cost of the 30G drive. Then for my second drive I had a 40G, making it a 60hour Tivo.

    Thanks to this new howto, I was able to create a ~110M back up image, make the 40G my drive A (using all of this diskspace) and the I dropped in a 120G for my second drive.

    Now I have a 193hour TiVo!


    I do have a couple of insights to share:

    1. All of the references keep referring to having a fat32 "primary Windows boot 'C:' drive on your PC and that this partition should have around 1G or so of free space.

    I was afraid that maybe the software was hardcoded to this partition as my boot area was more like the equivalent of F: on the drive.

    Fortunately this notation was really just to keep the instructions simple and clear. The exact location of the partition doesn't matter as long as you are aware of which one it is and know how to alter the command line instructions appropriately.


    2. Boot Floppy versus Boot CD.
    I was really fixated on trying to get the boot CD to work. Thinking I didn't want to have to make a bunch of floppys to do my install off of.

    So I spent a couple of hours trying to get my machine to boot off of CD and finally gave up and had to boot with the floppy image instead.

    Actually it wasn't too bad all I needed was to create 1 floppy which I used to boot up. The rest of the data was on my HD for me to access. If I had known the floppy install was going to be that painless, I might have just gone with that from the beginning.

    Well, thanks again!
     
  15. Feb 13, 2002 #95 of 1590
    MoneyMINTR

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    How come I can't mount the floppy drive using the bootcd?

    i.e.,

    mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/foo

    will not work. However Dylan's Boot disk was able to mount the floppy drive without any problems.


    MM
     
  16. Feb 13, 2002 #96 of 1590
    dmbong

    dmbong TiVo while Racing...

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    It works for me.

    What's the error you get?

    Does /mnt/foo exist (ie: did you create it?)?

    -Brian
     
  17. Feb 13, 2002 #97 of 1590
    bonscott87

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    Just got my 120 GB drive today in the mail. Took me all of 20 minutes to install and half of that was getting the stupid 3rd screw off near the power supply! 149 hours rules!!!!!

    Get Hinsdale's upgrade kits. Well worth it.
     
  18. Feb 17, 2002 #98 of 1590
    DavidS

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    Just posting to say thank you to the authors of the instructions and the utilities. Put an 80 gig as a new drive B in my 2 drive D-TiVo, went without a hitch, thanks to the great instructions. I was a complete novice.
     
  19. Feb 18, 2002 #99 of 1590
    Will Robinson

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    Thanks Hinsdale, Tiger, Kazymyr and those who post here - I upgraded my GCXBOT to 106 hours last night, and it went without a hitch.
     
  20. Feb 18, 2002 #100 of 1590
    netg0d

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    hi all .
    i have done a few upgrades but now one has me bumped..
    i did a dd from an original 40gb hard disk to a 60gb and was planning on madtivoing the rest of the space ..but i cant get the new 60 gb disk to go past "welcome . powering up" ..
    how long should that take usually .. i have never done a dtivo upgrade before ..

    please let me know what i can try.
     

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