How-To Upgrade your TiVo

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by hinsdale, Dec 21, 2001.

  1. Jan 21, 2002 #41 of 1590
    hinsdale

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    Hinsdale,...
    You are correct. All you need to do is run BlessTiVo on the new B drive and install (also may need to pull the A drive to change the jumper to master).

    However, you need to realize that if something doesnt work or either drive crashes or the OS runs into any corruption - you will have a door stop without a backup. The backup part only takes 20 minutes or so and is definetly worth the effort.
     
  2. Jan 21, 2002 #42 of 1590
    jayster

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    Instruction #7, option 3 explains how to copy from one drive to another. The instruction states to hook Tivo to hdb and the blank to hdc. Then it says to type dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdb bs=32k. This is in fact backwards...and will copy the blank to your tivo!!! I did two VERY boneheaded things. Not being extremely familiar with Linux, I did not confirm the order. Second, being confident in the ease of how the upgrade appeared to be...I didn't create a backup. A VERY STUPID NEWBIE THING TO DO. And I'm not even a newbie to computers. Of course, it would be illegal to use another's backup...but I really don't want to buy another TIVO...so I'm willing to ask. What makes me really mad is the fact I even followed the directions carefully (except for the most important part, the backup...ARGH) I have a Philips TIVO that I was going to swap the 30 Gig for a 100 Gig. PLEASE HELP ME...
     
  3. Jan 22, 2002 #43 of 1590
    hinsdale

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    From the How-To instructions Step #7, Option #3

    Connect your original TiVo A drive to the Secondary Master IDE connector on your PC (make sure the red/black edge stripe on the IDE cable is closest to the power connector and make sure the power connector is inserted fully. Connect your new upgrade drive to be used as your new TiVo A drive to the Primary Slave IDE connector on your PC.
     
  4. Jan 22, 2002 #44 of 1590
    jayster

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    OK...three mistakes. Since I used hda and hdb, I merely used your document for reference. Upon glancing at it, I saw the original Tivo drive first, so I logically figured that the Tivo goes to hdb. I'm humbled for not reading the words carefully. For someone scared to work on computers, the instructions are well written. For an Engineer (more aptly bonehead) like me...who doesn't carefully read instructions, disaster is imminent. Good news though, I've decided to brush up on my Linux syntax now. Hinsdale is all wise.
     
  5. Jan 22, 2002 #45 of 1590
    cyberjef28

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    Northern...
    I am afraid the MFSTools are not always able to divorce the 2 drives in the Thomson Scenium TiVo UK units.

    There are lots of posts about the UK TiVo backup images that, when restored to a new drive put the TiVo into a continual booting loop.

    This happenned to me and I have noticed that quite a few other UK upgraders have experienced this fault. Yet there is nothing in the guide to warn about this possible problem. In the end I had to source a working TiVo back-up image from someone else.

    Might be worth mentioning this as its a little annoying when you've paid almost £200 ($300) on a new hard drive to find that you cannot use it to upgrade your TiVo using the tools specified here.

    Jeff.
     
  6. Jan 25, 2002 #46 of 1590
    Larry63

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    I'm getting ready to expand my new virgin DSR6000R01. I haven't even opened it yet!

    I work for a small computer reseller and have access to a hard drive programmer.

    I was wondering if anyone has any experience using such a device to make backups and larger original disks for Tivo units?

    The following link is the disk duplicators web site, the model we have is the D-105.

    http://www.greystoneds.com/

    I have no doubt that your instructions will work fine, I just wanted to know if our disk duplicator will work with identical drives for back-up, and with larger drives for the upgrade.

    It would save time, and I could help out some friends with their units.

    Currently for example, if someone were to bring to me a 3.2G HDD with W-98 on it and asked me to give them an upgrade to a larger drive, I say no problem, I take the original 3.2G and copy it to a lets say 40G drive. They take the 40G drive and plug it in to their PC and everything boots up the same, the only difference is they have a larger drive without the headaches, of playing around with software and they still have their old drive as backup.

    Any tips before I start on my Philips DSR6000????

    thanks
     
  7. Jan 27, 2002 #47 of 1590
    jldesq

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    OK. I did it. My DirecTivo (Philips) started crashing a few weeks ago. It started with constant freezes. Then, the other day, I awoke to the "powering up" and a frozen screen. I was able to reset it by unpluging the power. Did this for 3 days. Then, I wasn't able to reset it at all. All I heard was the sound of a pingpong ball in the harddrive when I powered up. I had to act. I printed out Hinsdale's 18 page guide (someone said 22 pages - did I skip a few steps? ;) I purchased two 80 Gig HDs from CompUSA - over spent by some 50-60 dollars I bet. But, time was of the essence! :D My biggest fear was that the HD was so far gone, I wouldn't be able to get the software (ver. 2.05.01) from it. I know Win2k. I know DOS. I don't know Linux (don't even know how to say it). (That is a testament to how good Hinsdale's guide is). :) :) I broke open the computer case. Broke open Tivo. After a few false starts having to do with my CD ROM Drive not reading my boot CD (made on another computer), (I kept getting "failure to decompress" errors) I swapped out the CD ROM drive and I was able to back up the software from the bad drive. From there, it was easy street. I followed Hinsdale's guide to the letter. Now, I have 143 approx hours and it works too. Thanks Hinsdale. Thanks for everything.
     
  8. Jan 28, 2002 #48 of 1590
    DaMightyJ

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    Please help. I have the 30hr single drive SA. I put the original drive in as Secondary Master, with the intended new A drive (Maxtor 80G 5400) as the Secondary Slave. I ran dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdd bs=32k and after some time, it seemed to complete with no errors. After swapping the new A to Sec Master, and the other 80G as Sec Slave, I went to run TiVoMAD and I dont remember the error, but it was number 32, and it said it couldnt find some stuff and reverted back to the original partition.

    It gets better.

    I put the new A drive in the unit, just to see, and it sits at the initial screen for a long time. I tried rebooted a few times, giving atleast 10 minutes between each reboot, and have now put the original 30G drive back in, which is doing the same thing. I have replaced the new A back in, and am trying to run the mfs tools to see if I can get a backup, and restore that to the new A, but when i attempt to mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos it tells me I have to specify the filesystem. hda1 is simply a 6.4G disk I partitioned and formatted hoping to dump the 150~300MB there for now.

    If anyone can give me advice at this point, I would really appreciate it.

    Also, I want one of those TurboNet cards..

    Thanks
    Josh
     
  9. Jan 28, 2002 #49 of 1590
    Agent86

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    Has hinsdale's FAQ been updated with AT&T Broadband (Series2) TiVo information yet?

    I have my AT&T Broadband TiVo and an expansion drive on the way and am looking for a good "one stop" resource to follow step by step, troubleshoot from, etc.

    It's quite the comprehensive document. Keep up the great work!

    - Agent 86
     
  10. Jan 28, 2002 #50 of 1590
    siddhartha

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    i want to thanks tivomad, hinsdale and tiger for all of their excellent tools, guide and help.
     
  11. Jan 28, 2002 #51 of 1590
    hinsdale

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    Hinsdale,...
    In response to many requests, for a limited time I will perform recording capacity upgrades for those of you whom do not wish to or are not comfortable using the How-To provided here. You can either request an upgrade kit or ship me your TiVo unit (Chicago area locals can drop off) and for a minimal fee plus shipping costs (if applicable) I will perform the complete upgrade. This is a service not a business (and therefore $100-$300 less than regular commercial upgraders) and is for those intimidated by the how-to but not wanting to spend so much upgrading. I wont be able to do this for ever and hope that most will attempt using the provided How-To (your cost 0.00).

    Details on the drive upgrade kits and upgrade service can be found in the how-to:

    http://www.newreleasesvideo.com/hinsdale-how-to/



    Note: To those at&Tivo upgraders - i will be upgrading the How-To shortly with specifics for this new hardware.
     
  12. Jan 29, 2002 #52 of 1590
    Agent86

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    Wow - thats mighty generous of you hinsdale. That's really going "above and beyond" to support the community.

    In the meantime, I'm waiting with baited breath for your update for AT&TiVos. I have my AT&TiVo coming in on Thursday, with the expansion hard drive showing up on Wednesday.

    With a little luck, I can get it going just in time for the "Best of Super Bowl Comericals" show and the Super Bowl itself!

    Rock on hinsdale, and thanks again for all your help.

    Thanks for all the hackers out there that figured this stuff out as well!

    - Agent 86
     
  13. Jan 29, 2002 #53 of 1590
    hinsdale

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    Hinsdale,...
    Well i would hardly say that. Its not free, and although I am charging less than commercial upgraders would charge, is priced so as to not be burdensome to those legitimately overwhelmed by the process but also not encourage too many to give up in using the How-To (which is free).



    In regards to the AT&Tivo update to the How-To, hopefully I will get to that today.
     
  14. Jan 29, 2002 #54 of 1590
    Agent86

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    I agree. I've been working with computer hardware for years now, so its all like walking to me now, but I remember I was terrified of breaking something when I first started. However, once I got going, I realized it really wasn't so bad if you took your time and followed directions.

    Awesome. I'll try to take some pictures of the process. I know most of it is software based - which is not very conducive to photographs - but wherever I see a good photo op, I'll take some.

    - Agent 86
     
  15. Jan 29, 2002 #55 of 1590
    SDV

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    Hi,

    I've just upgraded a single 40gb quantum drive UK Thomson TiVo to a 40Gb + 120Gb Maxtor TiVo. Many thanks to hinsdale, TiVoMad, Tiger, Kazymyr and others for all their hard work, making this one easy upgrade! :)
     
  16. Jan 29, 2002 #56 of 1590
    DaMightyJ

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    Finally, after some confusion with byteswapping, etc, everything is good to go. Special shouts to jdm5 and Stan! Thanks!!

    HDR312 -> Upped to 193hrs worst quality 50-something bestest true-to-TiVo quality, dual 80G 5400 Maxtors provided for my viewing pleasure.. next stop: the bash. :D
     
  17. Jan 30, 2002 #57 of 1590
    spideymac

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    kroddy:

    I have just obtained 2 Hughes DirecTV receivers + Tivo @ $79 each and a WD 100GB HD from Best Buy @ $199 and I'm ready to begin my upgrade hack. I have a bracket from 9th Tee (in case I ended up with a two HD unit) . I am currently using a Mits 73905 with SR-HD500 (Home Theater) and I would like to know the following if you can assist:

    1. How are you utilizing/connecting your SR-HD500 with your Tivo, if it is also a combined unit?

    2. These Hughes Tivos are only supposed to have one HD in them. Can I leave the original in and add the WD100GB or do I have to replace the original with the WD100GB?

    3. Can I use Power Quest's "Drive Copy" to format and copy the Tivo software to the new drive, if I have to replace the original HD?

    4. Will there be any problem re: "Drive Copy" introducing any extraneous/proprietary software on to the new HD?


    5. Will the Tivo unit then recognize the entire drive capacity?

    These are just a few of my major concerns before I start hacking away. I've already dnldd the very nice road map for making the change and I'll begain as soon as I can get my above concerns answered. The use of Drive Copy was an after thought possiblity to copy the Tivo software to the new HD.

    I'm saving the second Tivo and using it as-is with another in-house set-up until I can find out what I'm supposed to be doing.

    Thanx, spideymac :confused:






     
  18. Jan 31, 2002 #58 of 1590
    kstuart

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    I'm using WindowsXP and my C: drive is already FAT32.

    The "footnote" for NT/2000/XP seems to assume that you need to create a new FAT32 partition.

    For those of us who already are using FAT32 under XP, what is going to be different than using FAT32 under, say, Windows ME?
     
  19. Jan 31, 2002 #59 of 1590
    hinsdale

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    It says you will need to have or create a Fat32 partition. You have one so can disregard furthur instructions for those whom need to create one.
     
  20. Jan 31, 2002 #60 of 1590
    kstuart

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    Thanks for your reply!

    Do I still need to change the numbers as mentioned in the footnote ?, ie
    I want to be clear, because although I have written software for both Unix and PC, I'm still taking this as a recipe, rather than trying to understand why and how you are doing each part...
     

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