How-To Upgrade your TiVo

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by hinsdale, Dec 21, 2001.

  1. Jan 11, 2003 #541 of 1590
    brahamt

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    I have used these tools before, and just today I upgraded my new Tivo to 70hrs (I know not that impressive).

    Just wanted to thank all of the people who made this possible. The tools work great.

    Eventually I'll upgrade my HDVR2, but the Sony's work great now.
     
  2. Jan 16, 2003 #542 of 1590
    sdsu89

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    The Hinsdale how to and MFS Tools were great and easy to follow and use, Thanks!

    I have a hdr112 that I've had for a couple of years and finally upgraded by adding a 30GB hd. Everything went flawlessly until I put in the command to unmount the drive. Once I put the command in a error occurred (wish I had written it down) but it was content to continually scroll up the screen until I forced the computer to reboot. I tested the image on the Tivo; no problem, put it back on the computer and put in the commands to marry the 2 drives and finished; no problem.
    Question is: Is there a problem in that the drives were not unmounted? Everything works great, but it is bugging me not knowing if something will come back to bite me.
    Thanks
     
  3. Jan 17, 2003 #543 of 1590
    RonV

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    Hoffman...
    For the last 30 days my Sony SAT-T60 HD was whining like a bearing was going bad. I found that Compusa had Maxtor's 200GIG hd on sale for 199 after rebates. This was actually cheaper than a 160 wich was going for 249. I also understand there would be storage unusable above 137 GB due to OS/TiVo constraints.

    But one thing the drive came with a 133/ATA adpater that I could installed in my PC to take advantage of a 80 GIG upgrade I did to that a few weeks ago since the mother board only supports 33 MHz transfers. About a 20 dollar trade off I guess.

    Doing the upgrade was the easiest thing in the world using the MFS software and Hinsdale instructions. I was worred about the swap flag setting on the restore commands but I used them as documented and it copied everything just fine from the 40 GB to the 200 GB drive. I reviewed the size of the drive under the boot CD just to confirm that only 137 GB was identified as documented and it was. It took about 2 hours to transfer eveything to the new drive.

    I installed the new drive in the TiVo and after booting and turing on live DirecTV the drive chugged like it was cleaning up somthing for about 30 minutes and then became very quiet. Verified that every menu worked and my thumbs and season passes were still there...they were! Powered off screwed everything back togther and powered back on and we are now at 137 Hrs of TiVo bliss.

    This new drive is so quite that it seems like something is missing in our family room I guess we got used to the old HD noise. You should have heard how loud it was when I was copying the drive outside of the TiVo unit on my work bench. I'll store this 40 meg away just incase something goes wrong with the new drive.

    Thanks again to everyone that made this upgrade so easy!

    RonV
     
  4. Jan 18, 2003 #544 of 1590
    Ezzie00

    Ezzie00 New Member

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    Mad props to Hinsdale! Hinsdale is awesome. All bow low to Hinsdale!

    Got my itty bitty 40 hour TiVo from TiVo.com, played for a couple of days just to verify it worked well. Enjoyed the experience greatly. Had a Western Digital 120Gig special Edition I got for Christmas just begging to be added to the TiVo so I got it together today. Only a couple things went different then the very thorough instructions from Hinsdale:

    1. The power supply "Y" cable wasn't at Radio Shack, or Circuit City, but CompUSA had one for me.

    2. TT-15 Torx was not needed (minor note)

    3. The ATA 66/100 cable I had has one of the pins covered up. Supposedly so morons don't accidently put it on upside-down. However this motherboard has all 40 pins. The TiVo hard drive only had the normal 39 so I knew it wasn't being used. So I grabbed my handy-dandy dremel and a teensy bit and drilled through the cap on the ATA cable. Worked like a charm.

    4. Didn't use the 9th tee solution for mounting a second hard drive in the single drive TiVo. Check out the pictures to see the half plastic fan grill, zip tie, and old 5.25" drive mount as the solution. Quite stable.

    This forum rules, you guys are great, keep up the good work! 187 max hours of record time.... I am such a geek for having this much fun!

    Pictures: -Sorry, first iteration seemed to fail... have to send you to the album.
    http://photos.yahoo.com/ezzie00
    Click on Transfer for TiVo pics!

    l8r, :up: :D :up:
    Ezzie
     
  5. Jan 18, 2003 #545 of 1590
    edrock200

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    Picture links don't work for me...
     
  6. Jan 19, 2003 #546 of 1590
    TiVoAddict

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    Thanks Hinsdale for the great upgrade procedure!

    I had just one problem: I used a 36-inch IDE cable, which according to the cable vendor's web site was supposed to make installation easier. Well, the cable was so long I had to double over the excess. And worse yet, I got random Tivo reboots, roughly every 10 minutes.

    The kernel log file showed tht I was getting drive read/write errors on both my old drive and the new drive after I installed this cable and did the upgrade procedure. The errors caused one of the programs to crash, and Tivo's recovery response was to reboot the machine.

    I discovered that the official IDE spec allows cables up to 18 inches, only half as long as the cable I bought! Everything worked great once I replaced my cable with a short 18-incher. You may get away with two feet (24 inches), but stay away from the three-footers!

    Cable length might be a good hint to add to the procedure documentation, along with the warning someone else posted about the filled-in key slot in an IDE cable creating problems.

    David
     
  7. Jan 20, 2003 #547 of 1590
    BrentLA

    BrentLA New Member

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    Thank you so much for the guide.

    My old series one 60 hour unit began skipping a bit in video and flutuating in the audio. When I would back up , it would play that section OK but then skip elsewhere. This didn't seem like a hard drive problem, but I tried anyway.
    I worked great! I was afraid to try it since I'm no computer guru, but I followed each and every step and now have 141 hours by removing the dual drives and replacing with a single WD 120G 7200 rpm drive. I still have an open drive bay to expand up to 282 hours (yikes).

    No heat problems and the menu finally works nice and fast like it should have. For all of you that are like I was - afraid to upgrade, Do it! It's well worth the couple hours effort if you can follow step by step directions.

    Thanks again
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    Series 1 60 hour dual drive expanded to 141 hour single drive
     
  8. Jan 20, 2003 #548 of 1590
    gt5059b

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    Woo-hoo!!

    I just upgraded my Sony SVR-2000 with a new 120GB WD1200JB A drive and used the original Quantum 30GB as the B drive (I swapped the two so I could do the 127 swap). Now i have 49 hours of Best Quality and 180 hours of Basic Quality. No more medium or basic recordings for me.

    The only snag I ran into was when putting the two drives back in. I forgot to attach the power to the B drive. :p On startup, the unit kept going into that startup loop. After plugging in the second drive, I got the "Green Screen Of Death". So I went through the whole mfsrestore and mfsadd process again, but no problems after that.

    I wanna say this is a great site and thanks to Hinsdale, Tiger, and all the others who made this upgrade possible.


    Jay T.
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    Sony SVR-2000 (180 hours)
     
  9. Jan 20, 2003 #549 of 1590
    Robert S

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    Cambridgeshi...
    If you'd left the TiVo plugged in for a bit longer the GSOD would have cleared itself - it's a repair utility, like Scandisk, not a sign that the TiVo is dead.
     
  10. Jan 22, 2003 #550 of 1590
    kruss

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    Hinsdale:

    Situation:
    One original 40GB DSR6000 working OK
    One original 40GB DSR6000 with death screen

    Purchased Maxtor 80GB hard drive (7200RPM) and used working 40GB DTivo drive to create a working 80GB Tivo hard drive. Installed in death screen DTivo, and it works as promised.

    Upgrade process created and saved a tivo.bak file on Win98se hard drive.

    When I reinstalled working 40GB DTivo drive the drive would stick "forever" on Powering Up screen. I then restored tivo.bak to this 40GB, but I still can't get beyond Powering Up screen.

    What's next? Since the working DRS6000 is 80MB and old DSR6000 is 40MB I can't see how I can recreate a tivo.bak file that would fit on 40GB.

    My PC has a 45GB hard drive and a CD rom on Secondary Primary cable.
    Does it make a difference if the restore is to a drive on Secondary Slave instead of Primary Slave?

    Should I consider trashing both 40GB drives? Money IS an object.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  11. Jan 22, 2003 #551 of 1590
    PhredC

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    I'm no Hinsdale but did you forget to jumper the drive back to Main? That will cause the TiVo to never boot.
     
  12. Jan 22, 2003 #552 of 1590
    kruss

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    PhredC:

    Yes, I changed the jumper from slave to master and the DTivo still is holding at the starting screen after more than 12 hours. My issue is really can I take a 40GB image and restore it to a 40B drive (eliminating "-s 127") as noted in the Hinsdale instructions for a single drive to single drive upgrade. I used "-zpi" not "-xzpi" so expanding should not have occurred, besides the tivo.bak image came from the same drive I'm trying to bring back to life. BTW, the tivo.bak file is 23MB, so it should fit without a problem, and the restore was reported as successful so the image should be OK, but it won't boot beyond the startup screen.
     
  13. Jan 22, 2003 #553 of 1590
    Robert S

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    Cambridgeshi...
    That's your problem - your TiVo backup file should be well over 100Mb. You therefore have enough in the backup for Linux to boot (and get you to 'almost there), but the MFS partitions are corrupt and preventing MyWorld running.

    You'll have to download a good backup.
     
  14. Jan 22, 2003 #554 of 1590
    kruss

    kruss New Member

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    If my source was from a 40GB drive and it worked just fine when restored to a new 80GB drive, why can't it work when it gets restored to a 40GB drive (without expansion)? The original image on a 40GB drive can't be 100MB, can it?
     
  15. Jan 22, 2003 #555 of 1590
    Robert S

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    Cambridgeshi...
    MFS Tools will give you an error message if the image is too big to fit (due to -s 127, or the drive being smaller than the original), -x won't do anything if there isn't room for expansion.

    I believe a single drive DSR 6000 backup should be about 121Mb (this is taken from a 40021Mb hard drive, so it's quite a saving in space).
     
  16. Jan 22, 2003 #556 of 1590
    kruss

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    Just checked my hard drive and the tivo.bak file is really 230.6 MB not 23 MB so why doesn't it restore properly? Starting with my 45 GB Windows C drive on Primary Master and the original 40 GB DTivo drive (jumpered as slave) connected to Primary Slave I get HDA as a windows drive, HDB as the DTivo drive and HDC as my CD-ROM. Sizes are shown full size, so I don't need to run gunlock 1. What commands should I use from the # prompt to restore my tivo.bak image file to the DTivo drive?
     
  17. Jan 24, 2003 #557 of 1590
    koldfyre

    koldfyre New Member

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    Last night I added a Maxtor 120GB to my Sony Tivo SAT20. It was very easy using the Hinsdale instructions.

    Only snag was not having enough free space on the PC C: drive- so I had to use Partition Magic to expand the partition. My PC hard drive has a small 1Gig c: and large D: & E: partitions so it just took some time to do this.

    Thanks for all the info on these posts and to Hinsdale !!!
     
  18. Jan 25, 2003 #558 of 1590
    boomboom69

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    how big can the hard drives be. I've got an HDVR2 and am thinking of replacing the harddrive and adding another one. I found 2 120gig HDs that I was thinking of using but was wondering if I could go bigger.
     
  19. Jan 25, 2003 #559 of 1590
    tivoupgrade

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    you can use 2x160GB hard drives which will yield a total of 243 hours...

    Lou
     
  20. Jan 25, 2003 #560 of 1590
    Knouse

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    How do you overcome the 137GB barrier?
     

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