How to Rollback Hydra from Roamio and Mini's v1

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  1. Jan 4, 2018 #161 of 634
    WonkyTalk

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    Hi Ted-

    The only thing that really drives me nuts about Hydra is the inability to record by Time or Channel. Unless I’ve missed something, the only way to do this now is through the guide which requires you to continue pushing the advance button over and over again to change the day and separately change the channel column. Very annoying. I used to record and search by time and channel all the time and really miss it. Any thoughts.....

    Thanks!
    Liz
     
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  2. Jan 7, 2018 #162 of 634
    VicV_1

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    I did the same for my Bolt Vox and it didn't work. When I clicked two thumbs down and rewind twice nothing happened. Is there a different process for the Bolt? In the Reset to Defaults menu, it lists also Clear and Delete everything. Shouldn't that be selected instead of Repeat Guided Setup?
     
  3. Jan 7, 2018 #163 of 634
    JoeKustra

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    Same process for Bolt, etc. Try putting the remote into IR mode first: TiVo +"C". The LED will be red when you press a key.
     
  4. Jan 7, 2018 #164 of 634
    VicV_1

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    Putting the remote into IR didn't work either. Any other suggestions?
     
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    JoeKustra

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    Sorry, I have used the procedure twice without problems. I wasn't using a VOX remote though.
     
  6. Jan 7, 2018 #166 of 634
    krkaufman

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    Don't the quoted instructions say to then press "Select"?
     
  7. Jan 7, 2018 #167 of 634
    lpwcomp

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    The first one I tried,I neglected to put the remote into IR mode. It failed and it wouldn't let me try again. I ended up having to do a C&DE, then redoing the rollback procedure, which worked. This was on a Roamio.

    You are aware that VOX doesn't work on the Gen3 UI, right? The remote will work as a normal remote but voice commands won't.
     
  8. Jan 7, 2018 #168 of 634
    VicV_1

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    I did press select.
    I am aware that the VOX won't work.
    Is C&DE, clear and delete?
     
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    krkaufman

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    Ok, good to confirm -- as it wasn't mentioned in the previous post.

    And just to confirm further, as others have been mistaken on the same point... you were pressing the "THUMBS Down" and Rewind ("<<") buttons, rather than just DOWN and/or Instant Replay; and the Select button (in the middle of the navigation arrows), rather than 'Enter'.
     
  11. Jan 7, 2018 #171 of 634
    krkaufman

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    After just upgrading my BOLT to gen4/Hydra, I tried the rollback procedure from the OP, and it worked fine, with a couple caveats.


    Re: 2) I did not have to press Select; the "right arrow" screen and then upgrade confirmation dialog appeared after the second press of the Rewind ("<<") button.

    Re: 3) The rollback doesn't immediately begin; a confirmation dialog appears to confirm the upgrade or allow the user to back out of the process.

    And my VOX Remote was in RF mode. YMMV.
     
  12. Jan 9, 2018 #172 of 634
    jerryez

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    I rolled back my TiVo Roamio OTA yesterday. I was not happy with the new interface, but am pleased to be back to the old interface. What will prevent TiVo from upgrading me back to the new interface, when they send out updates?
     
  13. Jan 9, 2018 #173 of 634
    atmuscarella

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    Right now TiVo has stated that Hydra is optional and that there will not be forced upgrades for existing equipment running the old HDUI. Also they are allowing new equipment (which auto load Hydra during setup) to be rolled back to the old HDUI.

    As long as these policies stay in place there is nothing you need to do. If TiVo changes these policies and forces everyone to upgrade to Hydra (which I find very unlikely, at least for several years) there is nothing you can do.
     
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  14. Jan 9, 2018 #174 of 634
    humbb

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    Tivo_Ted has also indicated that the old interface will continue to be supported/updated at least in the short-term: See this.
     
  15. Jan 9, 2018 #175 of 634
    jerryez

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    Thanks, my TiVo is a new unit and came with Hydra loaded. When I followed the instruction from page 1, the TiVo had several pop ups that ask me to enter different buttons than the original instructions, but when I followed the online instructions, I had no problems downgrading. Very happy TiVo owner.
    PS It is so much easier to get to my shows and play them.
     
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  16. dsf

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    Not crazy about this phrasing - I am rolling back right now but I still consider myself a Tivo user!
     
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  17. John R

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    I've been a Tivo customer since 2001. I'm on my 6th DVR (Bolt) with 3 Minis. This upgrade was the worst Tivo experience/change ever. None of the new menus are intuitive. I Hate it. I am grateful that my wife didn't kill me after I upgraded. I am so grateful that I am able to downgrade even with losing everything. It was that bad for me. Please Please Please add an option to use the old style menus with the new version if people will be forced to upgrade again. Thanks for posting the rollback instructions here.
     
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  18. chicagoenergy

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    Rolled back Roamio OTA first. Then transferred my shows from the Roamio Pro to the Roamio OTA. Rolled back Roamio Pro. Then rolled back two Minis- both Gen1 Minis. Moved shoes from Roamio OTA back to Pro.

    LOVE THE OLD INTERFACE. It’s like finding an old friend. Also the speed of the system is so much faster. The Roamio just doesn’t have the horsepower or Hydra is not optimized to run fast on the anything but a Bolt.

    Only issue is the VOX remotes with Bluetooth dongles only pair with Roamio units in Bluetooth mode. The option to pair the VOX remotes with the Mini is missing.

    I don’t need voice control but like not needing direct line of site for remotes. Both mini units are strapped to the back of TVs mounted to the wall. So far VOX remotes in IR mode are working ok.
     
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  19. Ilene

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    I too have roll backed on my new Vox Bolt. I couldn't handle the new interface either. It was especially frustrating to not be able to transfer from my other boxes to the Bolt unless I did it online. I love having the clock back in the upper right side of the screen. The only thing I will miss is how easy Hydra was to turn Closed Captioning on/off. I really never used the voice button to search for anything as it did not search what I had recorded, it looked for something new to record. I use Alexa (via Harmony) to skip and change channels.
     
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  20. Ilene

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    @TiVo_Ted - I really feel bad that so much time was put into Hydra, but I tried to like it but I have have recordings on 3 different TiVos and it was impossible to go from one to another using Hydra. I might have liked it if I only had a Bolt which I bought so that I would have 4K capability and the "lifetime savings on Black Friday" was something that I didn't want to pass up in case one of my older TiVos died. The switching to Devices and then scrolling down to whatever the other box names were and then searching was tedious. When you finished watching, deleting by pressing the TiVo button didn't happen, and I couldn't figure out where I was unless I went back to the main menu. From there you couldn't just scroll down, but had to select 1 through 0 to navigate. Just too much for me. I rolled back and I am happy again. I guess that is what counts.
     
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