How to Rollback Hydra from Roamio and Mini's v1

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  1. Dec 6, 2017 #121 of 648
    JoeKustra

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    True. There should be a new step 1: mute your sound.
     
  2. Dec 6, 2017 #122 of 648
    Ted J

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    Mute the TV? Maybe I am missing something though? Didn't need to do that on my brother's bolt earlier in the week so guess something has changed?
     
  3. Dec 6, 2017 #123 of 648
    JoeKustra

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    I meant the way to avoid the distraction of the error noise when hitting Left is to mute the audio. No effect on the rollback, which I did on a basic Roamio (which I had upgraded). My OTA 1TB BF box was delivered with 20.6.3 installed. It went to Hydra during initial Guided Setup.
     
  4. Dec 6, 2017 #124 of 648
    Ted J

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    I don't know if I understand you... when I did the procedure on the other bolt it went right into another menu before I was able to hit select though I did hit the select. On this one, it's just the ding I hear and then the UI doesn't change and just sits there. So ding or no ding doesn't change the situation that it's not going to the next step and asking me if I want to downgrade. The ding doesn't distract me from anything for it's when another action should be taking place and I'm still hitting the select if that makes sense.

    This would really be confusing if I hadn't already done one like within the last 4 or 5 days to see how it was suppose to work.
     
  5. Dec 6, 2017 #125 of 648
    Ted J

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    And yes, on both of them I'm pretty sure during the guided setup is when it did the Hydra update. Wish it would have asked me if I wanted to instead of just doing it.
     
  6. Dec 6, 2017 #126 of 648
    ryanmcv

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    I spent several hours last night trying to rollback my TiVo Mini (TCDA93000) from Hydra with no success. I followed the instructions in the OP to the letter.

    I first rolled-back my Roamio Pro and repeated guided setup. I immediately enabled MoCA. Everything worked flawlessly and gen3 is up and running without issue on my Roamio Pro.

    Following the OP's instructions, I then repeated guided setup on my Mini. The Guided Setup had the "old" gen3 interface as noted. After the first run through Guided Setup, it said a service update was available and the box would have to restart. After restarting, I had to complete Guided Setup once more. Everything seemed to work fine, but when the Mini finally booted up, Hydra was still installed. I tried completing Guided Setup a few more times with no success.

    What am I doing wrong? I can't stand Hydra so I really hope I'm not stuck with it on my Mini.
     
  7. Dec 6, 2017 #127 of 648
    schatham

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    Connect your main Tivo to the servers one more time. Then try the mini again.
     
  8. Dec 7, 2017 #128 of 648
    jerryez

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    So, what stops TiVo from downloading the Hydra to your TiVo again?
     
  9. Dec 8, 2017 #129 of 648
    djmike0408

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    You have opt into Hydra via the TiVo website.
     
  10. Dec 8, 2017 #130 of 648
    atlemar

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    I just bought a Bolt, my fourth TiVo since 2001, and it came with Hydra. I'm going to try the rollback tonight; if it doesn't work, I'm sending it back and possibly just calling the cable company.

    For now, you have to opt into Hydra via the website. Will this always be the case?

    Basically, Live Guide is TiVo's value for me; that's why I'm willing to pay the fees. The fact that it's not in Hydra is concerning, but I don't want to make the investment of the Bolt if there's a threat Live Guide will be taken away.
     
  11. Dec 8, 2017 #131 of 648
    sfhub

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    There are 2 ways to get Hydra.

    You bought your unit after they released Hydra and upon first connect it downloads Hydra.

    You opt-in to get Hydra using the web page (or whatever new mechanism they may come up with in the future)

    Once you go back to gen3 using the downgrade procedure, it stays there and you have to actively make some effort to go back to Hydra/Gen4.
     
  12. Dec 8, 2017 #132 of 648
    sfhub

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    By far the easiest way to get the proper gen3 or gen4 UI on a Mini is to connect to a DVR running the UI you want.
     
  13. Dec 8, 2017 #133 of 648
    HuskerMike

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    Ok, so I posted earlier that I could not "downgrade" from Hydra with my new Roamio OTA. However, after reading some more, I discovered that using an old remote, not the new one that came with the Roamio OTA would help. So, I used my old IR remote, and it WORKED!!
    My new Roamio OTA is now happily working without the disaster that is Hydra. Man the old UI is SOOO much better. Like it was actually designed by a professional. The graphic artist in me screamed every time I used Hydra, and now, I can happily use my new Tivo without my eyes bleeding. Woo!!!

    Thanks to all for posting the steps to "downgrade" (actually a massive upgrade) to the old UI. The thing that will help new users the most is to stress the necessity of using an old IR remote. Do that, and the "downgrade" should work for you.
     
  14. Dec 8, 2017 #134 of 648
    krkaufman

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    Note that the RF and VOX remotes can be toggled to IR mode, so you wouldn't need some older IR-only remote for this rollback workaround.
     
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  15. FreeKnight

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    Running a Roamio Pro as main host device non-Hydra with 1 Tivo mini MOCA connected. Purchased a second non-Vox mini this holiday. Set up the second mini, but because it is new, it updated to Hydra and said my host DVR needed to update or to downgrade this mini.

    After doing the research, I want to downgrade the mini, but I am still shown the "Downgrading will delete [everything]" message.

    My question: will downgrading a mini to non-Hydra actually delete everything from a non-Hydra Roamio Pro host DVR or is this just their standard Downgrade warning message?

    I assume it wouldn't because the mini shouldn't have to touch the host DVR to downgrade itself, but I'm not willing to take that chance when someone probably has a definitive answer to this question.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  16. ej42137

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    "Downgrading" the Mini will remove everything on the Mini. Which is, of course, nothing.
     
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  18. wblynch

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    I just got a renewed Roamio OTA which went through four updates before first use and ended up on Hydra rc11. I tried to do the downgrade as described upthread and other places but it gets stuck in a “Downgrade Error”. And pressing “Try Again” about 50 Times doesn’t help.

    Does anyone have advice how to break out of the error loop and complete the downgrade.
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2017
  19. krkaufman

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    You may have better luck by switching your remote to IR mode before initiating the downgrade button sequence.

    See this post: How to Rollback Hydra from Roamio and Mini's v1
     
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