How to Rollback Hydra from Roamio and Mini's v1

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by BadCommand, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. Nov 3, 2017 #61 of 648

    reneg Well-Known Member

    Jun 19, 2002


    I completed the rollback of the UI on the one Tivo that I tried Hydra out on. I'm willing to give Hydra another chance in the future, and I'm hopeful that the missing functionality makes it way into Hydra. One thing that Tivo can do to help people sample the new UI is to not make the rollback process punitive.
  2. Nov 3, 2017 #62 of 648

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    I agree if the process was as simple as changing between the SDUI & HDUI on the Premieres I would be trying the new Hydra UI.
  3. Nov 3, 2017 #63 of 648

    zalusky Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Apr 5, 2002
    Cupertino, CA
    I think it would be kind of cool to have a web gui that would let you try it out without installing it.
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  4. Nov 3, 2017 #64 of 648

    rodney111 New Member

    Jul 22, 2014
    Thank you, thank you, thank you for these instructions!
  5. Nov 4, 2017 #65 of 648

    samccfl99 I Am Sometimes Vocal

    Sep 7, 2013


    LOL, they can't even provide a proper rollback or not have major problems and have a new UI that who designed and tested and debuged and beta'd....and you want them to build a special website to simulate Gen4???

    You don't know Tivo, Inc/Rovi/whomever Devlopment, do you? :rolleyes:o_O:D
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  6. Nov 4, 2017 #66 of 648

    samccfl99 I Am Sometimes Vocal

    Sep 7, 2013
    I figured it out 15 posts ago, but thanks. I use KMTTG a lot and never went from pc-tivo before. I can pull a file from the tivo and push it with pytivo to my tivos fine. I guess not on Gen4 yet, but I won't go near it for a long time to come. Oh well!
  7. Nov 4, 2017 #67 of 648

    dslunceford Well-Known Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    No. VA/D.C.
    Yeah, my Roamio Pro stays at a constant 80% full on a 3TB Drive (with movies and such). I’m not inclined to lose that content.
  8. Nov 4, 2017 #68 of 648

    kes601 Member

    Sep 27, 2015
    I did the rollback myself this morning. Of course I "exported" instead of "saved" out of kmttg so I had to recreate everything, but it didn't take too long using Tivo Online to recreate my One Passes. Glad to have my old Tivo back.
  9. Nov 4, 2017 #69 of 648

    rodney111 New Member

    Jul 22, 2014
    Definitely not a good 2017 Christmas gift. Hopefully by Valentine's Day or Easter it will be more functional.
  10. Nov 4, 2017 #70 of 648

    bob61 Member

    Apr 22, 2002
    SMH.... How could TiVo have released the Hydra UI for Roamio units with the significant issues that have been found? Glad I didn't bite on the "upgrade".

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  11. Nov 4, 2017 #71 of 648

    osu1991 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2015
    Its working just fine on my Roamio
  12. Nov 4, 2017 #72 of 648

    lparsons21 Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2015
    Mine too, as well as the Bolt and 2nd gen Mini. A few minor inconveniences but nothing earth shattering imo.

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  13. Nov 4, 2017 #73 of 648

    ronmojohny New Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    I tried Hydra on my Roamio & 2 Minis, and it lost connection to my cable card 5 different times. I had to restart the Roamio to get it working again. (Then, of course, I had to restart the Minis every time too) I like the new interface.. (Can we PLEASE keep the old guide?) I rolled it back for now, and I'll wait until the bugs get worked out before I upgrade again.
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  14. Nov 4, 2017 #74 of 648

    samccfl99 I Am Sometimes Vocal

    Sep 7, 2013
    Mine was well over 95% for months (due to something about politics???) and I kept looking on Ebay and got a good used 2TB LS XL4 just for storage for $210. They work fine in SD mode and with Moca there is no problem watching from my Roamio Pro or Mini. The only thing is that they never put in SkipMode for Series4. I do not know why. It should be able to handle it in SD Mode, which is what it is in and usually on Standby (can still transfer and watch from it when in that mode). Now my RP is at about 83% and over 10% of that is current, deletable stuff I have not watched yet. The XL4 is at 59%. I moved a lot of older stuff over that did not have SM.

    I won't upgrade until they put the Live Guide back and wait at least 2-3 Major releases.
  15. Nov 4, 2017 #75 of 648

    Rkkeller Well-Known Member

    May 13, 2004
    I just see "Ignored User" is that old troll here too?
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  16. Nov 4, 2017 #76 of 648

    samccfl99 I Am Sometimes Vocal

    Sep 7, 2013
    OH, Am I the Ignored User and you are talking to me (and not only in this thread)? How childish. I do not bash people...I know better than that and not to Report rude people, although nothing would make "this old troll" happier...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::p:D

    SAD...says something...oh now look what you made me do. I hardly ever lookup people.

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  17. Nov 4, 2017 #77 of 648

    bluraven New Member

    Dec 24, 2005
    I am so screwed. I want to roll back my roamio but I want to keep all my recordings, onepasses, thumb ratings etc. I don't want to spend days researching pytivo and kmttg and more days transferring the recordings. I probably should have pulled my drive and cloned it before moving to hydra. My bad. So what's the best way to do this? Use kmttg to back up my onepasses and thumbs from hydra? And then pyTivo desktop to transfer recordings to pc? Then roll back, and try and transfer everything back? Or should I just wait for Tivo to realize how bad Hydra is and to make a smoother roll back process that doesn't involve a full wipe? Uhg.
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  18. Nov 4, 2017 #78 of 648

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

    Jun 4, 2015
    Philly suburbs
    How many recordings are you talking about? And how many of them are shows that are copy protected, those cannot be transferred to a PC?
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  19. Nov 4, 2017 #79 of 648

    ClearToLand Old !*#$% Tinkerer!

    Jul 9, 2001
    Central Jersey
    Pretty much closing all your doors here, aren't you?

    How many came from H.264 source material?

    TS 'Fast' Format Transfer is required for H.264 source material but is known for TS Sync Errors. Use PS 'Slow' Format Transfer if possible.

    Wouldn't have helped - HDDs are 'married' to motherboards and motherboards store the software version.

    Sit back, take some deep breaths and decide - if you want to keep your non-protected recordings, you're going to have to invest some time. And, TiVo units transfer best when idle / in Standby mode (all of the CPU is dedicated to the encrypting required for TiVo-to-PC transfers).

    Now, whether or not you could buy another TiVo on gen3 and transfer the non-protected recordings there, someone more knowledgeable than me on gen4 would have to reply.

    Best of luck in whatever you decide.
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  20. Nov 4, 2017 #80 of 648

    bluraven New Member

    Dec 24, 2005
    It's about 286 HD hours worth of recordings. Don't know how many are protected probably most are not. Assume most or all is h264. I have an old series 4 premier that I could transfer everything to before rolling back the roamio, if that makes things easier somehow.

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