How to Rollback Hydra from Roamio and Mini's v1

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  1. Apr 6, 2019 #461 of 591
    HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    No, you can't. External drives (the very few that work which have not been made in quite some time) get married to the internal drive and shows distributed across both drives after that with no ability to copy shows between drives.

    If your shows are not copy-protected by your cable company, you can download them to your PC and then upload them back after downgrading.

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    Outback Paul

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    I just have OTA. How do I download them to my PC? Via TiVo online? or one of the two software programs that have been mentioned?
     
  3. Apr 6, 2019 #463 of 591
    HerronScott

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    You'll need to install one of the programs such as pyTivo Desktop, pyTivo or even TiVo Desktop which will also allow you to upload later as well.

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    JoeKustra

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    Very good choice: Easier to use pyTivo
     
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    Outback Paul

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    Thank you! That was the only thing holding me up was the recordings.
     
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    Outback Paul

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    Outback Paul

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    Sucessfully downgraded my Bolt on the first try. I put my remote in IR mode before I tried. It took about 30 minutes. I'm so happy!
     
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  8. kflinch

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    I'm really disappointed that Streambaby doesn't work with Hydra. The new GUI is a lot of fluff, with no new added functionality. I miss the loss of the left arrow function. It is intuitive, the back button is not. The banner of giant icons that displays when I hit the TIVO button on the remote doesn't function as I expect and really adds nothing to the experience. But what I miss most is the loss of Streambaby. Plex isn't an option for me. Plex doesn't handle large numbers of files well (almost 7000), especially TV episodes. It looks like big, confusing mess.
     
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  9. krkaufman

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    Oof. I hope v5 wouldn’t have addressed the TE4 drawbacks that compelled the rollback.
     
  10. GCS2000

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    Anyone know how I can downgrade a mini V1 from Hydra to the old UI if I have moved it off the system that had Hydra and is now on a system under the old UI - is this possible?

    I have tried the steps in the first post and when I gets done with set up and asks what TIVO to connect to it will not connect to Roamio we have which is on the old UI.
     
  11. JoeKustra

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    With your permission, a Mini will change to the software used by the host you select. There is no explicit procedure except to select the host. Try a restart.
     
  12. GCS2000

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    Thanks. I have restarted the mini several times and the main Roamio several times. Still won't let me connect to the Roamio (old UI)
     
  13. JoeKustra

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    Is it possible there are two different systems? I think the reason the Mini won't connect could be that it's not authorized. Sadly, a call to TiVo may be needed.
     
  14. GCS2000

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    This mini has been moved from my home account (on Hyrda Bolt) to my work account (non Hydra Roamio) by Tivo. Don't know if tech can help but I guess that is my next step. It sees the Roamio here at the office but it won't connect to it.
     
  15. dmk1974

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    Tried Hydra for 3 days and had enough. Rolled my Roamio and my 6 Mini's back tonight. Tried to adapt to the Grid Guide and some differnet button settings on the remote, but the main deal-breaker was the constant lost connection to host messages from 4 of the 6 Mini's during use. NEVER had that happen with the same hardware over the past couple years.

    Lost a few old recordings from premium channels during the roll back, but not the end of the world. Had an extra unused Roamio that I temporarily transferred my other shows to as well as my OnePass settings as well. Aside from losing a few hours of my life on Hydra, all is back in business and working perfectly on TE3!
     
  16. mdavej

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    In spite of being a huge Hydra fan, I did try to warn you:
    Hydra with Romiao Pro and V1 minis
     
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  17. dmk1974

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    You did. It was against my better judgement as well :)

    Was definitely going to just deal with that Grid Guide. But the host disconnects were awful! Thankful there was a way to roll back.
     
  18. Macomar

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    I wonder if the following TE3->TE4->TE3 test and rollback on my one and only Tivo (Roamio Basic) would work to preserve and restore my current TE3 setup? Many of my recordings are copy-protected, so I can't save them with PyTivo.

    1. Remove existing hard drive used with TE3.
    2. Install new hard drive and upgrade to TE4.
    3. Test TE4.
    4. Rollback to TE3 by installing the original hard drive.
     
  19. ggieseke

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    The OS is on the motherboard, not the drive. With a Roamio you might be able to pull it off by rolling it back to TE3 on the new drive in step 4, then putting the old drive back in as step 5.

    On Bolts the database partition is also on the motherboard, so it wouldn't work no matter what you do.
     
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  20. Macomar

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    Thanks ggieseke! Anyone out there with a spare Roamio willing to try the experiment?
     

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