How to Rollback Hydra from Roamio and Mini's v1

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  1. Nov 3, 2017 #21 of 648
    TiVo_Ted

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    It’s the same for Roamio and BOLT. After downgrading, you can just connect to the downgraded box from a MINI and it will offer to downgrade as well. No backdoors required on MINI.


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  2. Nov 3, 2017 #22 of 648
    samccfl99

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    So it can't/won't ever be changed to at least keep the recordings?
     
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  3. Nov 3, 2017 #23 of 648
    ajwees41

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    it's been said from the start that to go back requires full reinstall of the previous software and wiping the drive don't think it can or will change to keep recordings
     
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  4. Nov 3, 2017 #24 of 648
    samccfl99

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    Sorry, but are you Ted? I can read and know what has been said for a long time. It is a question for him, if he chooses to answer, but I know the probable answer. I got close to 1,000 recordings on my Roamio Pro. Thanks.

    I did not read that it wipes the drive first. It does? Strange.
     
  5. Nov 3, 2017 #25 of 648
    schatham

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    Thanks for this. Starting the process.

    Downgrade went well on Roamio. Sets up just like a new Tivo.

    Update: Mini's are all downgraded now also.
     
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  6. Nov 3, 2017 #26 of 648
    JoeKustra

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    This may sound strange, but during guided setup, did it remember the name of your Roamio? I have run GS and replaced the hard drive on a Roamio and it still knows my box's name. Not a 100% wipe.
     
  7. Nov 3, 2017 #27 of 648
    PSU_Sudzi

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    Good question and I set it up so long ago I don’t remember if LROOM was a default choice or if I made it up. But it was there during setup and I guessed that’s because of connecting the box with the TSN online.
     
  8. Nov 3, 2017 #28 of 648
    billpiper

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    Followed the following
    For the Roamio:
    1.) Go into Menu- Help- Reset to Defaults- Repeat Guided Setup- Select
    2.) Press Thumbs Down 2 times (NOT 3!), now press Rewind 2 times, Now press Select (not Enter)
    3.) Roamio will immediately go to that right arrow screen, then screen blank, then you'll get a message letting you know that the rollback process has begun

    Saw the message about the rollback process, after everything was complete I still have Hydra....
     
  9. Nov 3, 2017 #29 of 648
    jmerr74

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    Oh man...roll back...lose everything and still be stuck with Hydra? I would go bananas!
     
  10. Nov 3, 2017 #30 of 648
    PSU_Sudzi

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    Wow, I would send a message to TiVo Ted and let him know.
     
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  11. Nov 3, 2017 #31 of 648
    billpiper

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    I had downloaded recordings through kmttg....
     
  12. Nov 3, 2017 #32 of 648
    billpiper

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    Thanks, trying it again...maybe it will work this time
     
  13. Nov 3, 2017 #33 of 648
    thalador

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    I am in the process of downloading and transferring recordings now with the intent to roll back. Will do bolt after transferring to roamio and then xfer back to bolt after downgrade.
     
  14. Nov 3, 2017 #34 of 648
    chiguy50

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    @TiVo_Ted: I hope that you (and your chain of command) appreciate just how much of a positive difference your interactive presence here means to us--and to the eventual success of Hydra. You are following in the giant footsteps of TiVoMargret (and a handful of others).

    I am among the TiVo devotees who were eager to upgrade to Hydra on day one; however, given the initial bugs and missing features, I have decided to hold off until I feel it will be an overall positive change for my usage case. I am rooting for that day to come sooner rather than later, and I feel hopeful that your personal efforts will contribute to hastening its arrival.

    Thanks for all you do.
     
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  15. Nov 3, 2017 #35 of 648
    TonyD79

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    Names of machines are also stored in the TiVo cloud by service number. It could’ve pulled it down during the guided setup.
     
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  16. Nov 3, 2017 #36 of 648
    jackstoker

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    Thanks Ted! I really appreciate your being active on TCF! Hopefully you will continue even after getting past the Hydra growing pangs.

    Can you please tell us why, technically, the recordings have to be lost when reverting to Gen3?

    And please tell us why, technically, transfers from a computer to TiVo can't be restored. I really do want to try Hydra, but can't without the computer to TiVo transfer ability.
     
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  17. Nov 3, 2017 #37 of 648
    billpiper

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    Third try worked... thanks again
     
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  18. Nov 3, 2017 #38 of 648
    samccfl99

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    Isn't PyTivo supposed to be able to transfer pc to tivo using Gen3? How do you do that? Since I cannot transfer some old recordings to my XL4, but they do download via KMTTG, can't I then shoot them up to my XL4 from my PC? I looked to see if this could be done with KMTTG, but was told it does not have that function. No wonder I couldn't find it...LOL

    Thanks
     
  19. Nov 3, 2017 #39 of 648
    TiVo_Ted

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    Yet another example of them going off script. I was waiting to post until we had a few people go through this successfully. On your instructions, there is an easier way to downgrade the MINI's. After downgrading your DVR, go to the MINI, Devices setup and reconnect your host DVR to your newly downgraded DVR. The MINI should immediately prompt you to downgrade and walk you through the process.
     
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  20. Nov 3, 2017 #40 of 648
    TiVo_Ted

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    I'm talking to the engineering team about how this might work. It would likely require a change to the DVR client code.
     
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