How to Rollback Hydra from Roamio and Mini's v1

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by BadCommand, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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  2. Mikeguy

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    Yep, do-able.
     
  3. JoeKustra

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    Your TSN should reappear in the upgrade website in a few days.
     
  4. cummingsje

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    Thanks all. Just checked it and says i have no qualifying boxes. If it takes it some time that is fine.
     
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  5. Mr.Broncosfan

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    OMG!! Thank you for starting this thread. Just rolled back my Roamio Plus and Mini without any hiccups. Easy peasy. So nice to have the familiar interface back and the full functionality of the left button.
     
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  6. kbmb

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    Also just rolled back our main Roamio yesterday with no issues. It did have the extra confirmation screens and did fail saying some network problem after the first blue circle. But after that everything went fine. It is so nice to have the old interface back. It really does run smoother on the Roamio's and I think it's just more usable. Really think TiVo could have "tweaked" the Gen3 and made something really great, but oh well. I have a feeling sooner or later we'll just end up with an X1 or nothing as we watch more and more via streaming. Thanks to the OP of posting the excellent instructions!
     
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    compnurd

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    So i had rolled back my bolt plus previously and it had not been connected for a couple of months.. I just picked up another bolt and activated it.. after a few service calls it showed up as being able to upgrade and I did.. I re connected my plus also and it did a few service calls.. however it is not showing back up to upgrade again.... am i missing something here or just need to wait longer since it is connecting again... besides a voice remote is there another way to trigger the upgrade?
     
  8. Mar 1, 2018 #208 of 651
    JoeKustra

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    I did an upgrade/downgrade also. It took a week before the box reappeared on the site.
     
  9. Mar 1, 2018 #209 of 651
    lpwcomp

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    After rolling it back, don't you have to explicitly request Hydra again?
     
  10. Mar 1, 2018 #210 of 651
    compnurd

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    That is what i am trying to do but the TSN isnt showing up on the upgrade page
     
  11. Mar 4, 2018 #211 of 651
    sterry21

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    BadCommand, I just want to thank you for posting this valuable and accurate rollback procedure. You may have saved a marriage!

    Cheers,

    Steve
     
  12. matthans00

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    I want to thank BadCommand and everyone else who contributed to this thread.
    I just got a new Bolt Vox in late Feb. It came with the new Experience 4 installed and I hated it from day one. I got the 3TB 6 tuner Cablecard Bolt and after setting it up and programing my One Passes found out it wouldn't start ANY recordings. I could go to the guide and manually start a current show but if there were multiple shows at the same time I would miss the beginning because the tuner wasn't on that channel so no buffer. ANY show that was to record in a later time slot would self cancel. I transferred about 40 shows from my old Roamio and it brought my storage usage up to 6%. When I got up the next day I opened "My Shows" and was shocked to see storage usage was now 0%. EVERY recorded show had been deleted but the only thing in "Recently Deleted" folder was 2 test recordings I had deleted the day before. The only thing not deleted was the streaming parts of each One Pass. We also watch shows from Youtube and Netflix and about every 10 minutes they would hang and buffer for a minute or so. Never had that problem with the old Roamio.
    Anyway, after 2 weeks struggling with this I came across this thread and immediately jumped at the chance to try the rollback to Experience 3. IT WORKED! One Passes record when they are supposed to and STAY! Youtube doesn't hang and buffer! Family is happy!
    I will admit the new UI had some good features; the 1 key shortcuts from the My Shows screen. I can live without Vox.
    The Bolt and Mini rollback took about 20 minutes each plus guided setup and One Passes, well worth the effort. I won't upgrade now till they make me!!
    Thanks again everyone, I couldn't have done it without you.
    Matt
     
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  13. jlb

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    Ugh....just received my new, well, tivo renewed Bolt and it came with Hydra on it.... This is the most yucky thing I've seen. Anyways, the keystroke combination listed at the top of this thread seemed to work to kick in the downgrade on my Bolt...... hoping it goes smoothly and doesn't take too long. As its a new box to me, I don't mind the reset everything process.....
     
  14. jlb

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    yeah. I was not a fan either (see my post just above). I like familiarity and, man, if I had to support this for my wife while I'm travelling....yuck that would be a nightmare
     
  15. jlb

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    Rollback on my Bolt went without a hitch. Well, one minor one....TiVo Online can't communicate but I am doing a reboot in hopes that is all it will need to reestablish communication.

    Once that is done, I will push my passes to the new box from Online.

    [ETA] Reboot didnt fix communication in online but forcing a connection now to see if that helps.
    [ETA2] I think it was a browser issue complicating things or was just timing. Went to another browser and it worked fine. Rollback gets 2 thumbs up from me. And all of my Season Passes pushed over to the new Bolt just fine from TiVo Online. I really like how things went.
     
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  16. mom2jel

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    Thank you to Bad Command from me too!
    I upgraded my Roamio and tried to get used to it for a couple of days, just couldn't handle it. Sometimes "splashy" looking isn't the most intuitive!

    Once I downgraded my Roamio (note for those skipping messages - the downgrade will erase everything, including your recordings and OnePass).
    I see the upgrade option is there:
    Settings > User Preferences > Add & Manage Apps
    The Upgrade Experience will be at the bottom of the screen underneath the 'Choose other apps you want to see ...' (or about the 9th choice).
     
  17. JoeKustra

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    Uncheck the box and it will go away. For a while anyhow.
     
  18. Lurker1

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    Putting 'Get New Experience' in My Shows is such an evil thing to do. Are they trying to trick unsuspecting/uninformed household members (i.e. kids) into making a big mistake that is very difficult or impossible for me to recover from? So glad I saw that first and disabled it before someone else stumbled into it.
     
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  19. szvers

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    Got the hydra update Friday night. After not being to have my minis be able to watch recorded I downgraded and lost everything, which I new would happen. My problem now after downgrading my roamio is I keep getting the tivo dvr not found v70 error message after running guided setup.
    I wasn't able to repeat guided setup on the minis and do the thumbs down. I've unplugged/plugged several times to no avail.
    I don't see a setting on my roamio ota for MoCa so I don't know if I'm missing something there.
    The mini connects to the service/makes a connection fine, then just holds on the tivo dvr not found screen.
    Thank you for any help.
     
  20. nrnoble

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    At the moment, I am regretting the upgrade, but I will give it some time. I preferred the original TiVo UI over the xfintityX1 UI (on xfintity box of course), and I prefer the X1 UI over the new TiVo upgrade.

    Currently I want the TiVo live guide, not the grid. I am hoping their is an option to switch back to that.
     

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