How to Rollback Hydra from Roamio and Mini's v1

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by BadCommand, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. RoamioJeff

    RoamioJeff Unregistered User

    May 8, 2014


    I don't think TiVo performed adequate usability studies on this interface. It is not intuitive.
  2. humbb

    humbb Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2014
    Northern CA
    You do know that you can now toggle CC's on the old Gen3 interface by pressing and holding the blue "B" button on the remote? Can't get much easier than that.
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  3. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
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  4. foghorn2

    foghorn2 Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2004
    Las Vegas
    Glad you are happy with the prev gen. At least for now, TiVo gives you that choice. I rolled back a spare lifetime Roamio that was sitting in the closet so I can use it to grab recordings from a Tivo Desktop PC and a Netgear Nas and send them to the Hydrated Bolt and the other Roamios

    It was a familiar face and fun to mess around in the old ui. It came up with the live guide, I noticed the guide had no channel icons. I found it lackluster compared to Hydra. Kinda like looking back at Windows 98. Yes there are many quirks with hydra, but its still im my opinion a step into the future for Tivo and getting better with the updates.
  5. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

    Nov 25, 2003


    Of course, the channel guide icons *can* be displayed in the gen3 UI, you just have to enable them.
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  6. rdrrepair

    rdrrepair Bill Knapp

    Nov 24, 2006
    845 New York
    You can enable and disable channel icons?
  7. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

    Nov 25, 2003
    When viewing the Guide, press the Yellow (A) button to access the Guide Options dialog. You should find a "Show channel logos" option that you can toggle.
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  8. JonUrban

    JonUrban New Member

    Dec 25, 2015
    Can you roll back a Mini without rolling back a Roamio?
  9. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    Simple answer. A Mini and its host must be running the same software/UI. So Hydra-Hydra or classic-classic.

    Your choice. Choose wisely.
  10. Ilene

    Ilene Member

    Dec 26, 2001
    Plano, Tx
    I did not know that. I will give it a try tonight. I thought the letters were only for sorting...Still happy that I switched back. Hubby isn't griping that he can't figure out how to navigate. I prefer the Alexa commands so I only use the remote now to get to My Shows ( baby steps in learning how to map using Harmony - main issues were resolved through some good advice by other members of this forum). Looking forward to additional future Alexa commands using skills.
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  11. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Well-Known Member

    Nov 27, 2014
    Southern CT
    I rolled back and once again I know what time it is!!! Plus m enjoying my live guide. I don't dislike Hydra but I do prefer this gen3.
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  12. Feb 2, 2018 #192 of 651

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    I thought just the opposite. It was very intuitive. EVen my GFs young grand nieces/nephews had no problem using Hydra.
  13. Feb 2, 2018 #193 of 651
    Diana Collins

    Diana Collins Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Aug 21, 2002
    New York...
    As I've said before...'intuitive' depends on how long you used Encore (classic HDUI). Folks that have spent years with Encore have had that paradigm drilled into their brains, so what is 'intuitive' to them is influenced by that experience. If you have used other DVRs recently, or are used to the Hulu/Amazon/Netflix UX's, then Hydra is a much easier transition. The TiVo UX up until now has been evolutionary. Hydra is a clean break with the past and changes the entire paradigm. I happen to like it, but other don't. YMMV.
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  14. Feb 3, 2018 #194 of 651

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2002
    Staunton, VA
    I thought Ted's comment was interesting regarding back-porting a database change for the gen3 UI which would seem to be relevant here as to why they wipe the TiVo when reverting from Hydra/gen4 back to gen3.

  15. chad73

    chad73 Tivoaholic Member

    Jul 14, 2004
    Anderson, S.C.
    I rolled both of my boxes back to Gen 3. I've decided I'd like to put Hydra back on my secondary box just to keep up with it's progress. I have two questions. 1) If both DVRs are on different software can I still view (not transfer) recordings that I recorded on the other box? 2. I've searched everywhere and can't figure out how to re-install hydra. The Tivo site now says I don't have any eligible boxes for "early upgrade" I don't have the upgrade "app" in the app section either. I did a clear and reset everything but it puts Gen 3 back on that box.
  16. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    I took a week after I downgraded a Roamio to 20.7.4 before it reappeared on the upgrade site. Yes, you can watch content on either box. The Hydra box has your other TiVo under Devices, not My Shows.

    The shortcut is in this post if you need it -> Upgrade URL to get the New TiVo Experience
  17. jap3

    jap3 Member

    Jul 14, 2003
    Salem, NJ
    Looking for a little help. I "upgraded" to Hydra and my wife and I don't like it. We prefer the classic Tivo interface. I've attempted to rollback following the directions given and the top of this thread to no avail. Two thumbs down, and when I hit the rewind and then select I get the "bong" each time I press those buttons (not the same "bong" as the thumbs down). The software version is 21.7.2.RC14-848-6-848.

    Thanks for any assistance.

    I'll save my opinions of why we don't like it on another thread.

    EDIT: Nevermind. I re-read this thread, found to put the remote in IR mode. That worked. Downgrade in Progress!!!

    Also, rewind is << not 8 second replay. Duh.
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2018
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  18. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

    Nov 25, 2003
    Try initiating the rollback with the remote in IR mode, rather than RF.

    (Hold TiVo+C buttons until the remote's LED flashes red.)
  19. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    Someone should make a YouTube video of this process. Those remote keys can be hard to find. o_O
  20. cummingsje

    cummingsje New Member

    Feb 28, 2015
    I've been searching the threads but can't find an answer. What if per chance i wanted to "opt back in" after reverting back to the old U.I. Not that I necessarily would, but at some point i'm sure will have to.
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2018

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