How much longer will Tivo be relevant?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by dms92969, Aug 9, 2019.

  1. BNBTivo

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    That's pricey, especially with no sports and slow internet. Have you tried to call and get it re rated with a newer deal?
     
  2. tapokata

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    Regional Sports Networks are the reason I subscribe to SlingTV (Blue). In my perfect universe, I could subscribe JUST to the RSN's (hopefully at a further reduced rated). I honestly watch very little content on Sling outside of the RSN games, as a Netflix and Prime subscription fill up the non-OTA time.
     
  3. nrc

    nrc Cracker Soul

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    I always check the dates on these threads to make sure they weren't started in 2004.

    I do think that TiVo needs to partner with someone like Playstation Vue or Sling to offer a full streaming channel package. I suspect that wouldn't go over well with the cable partners. Maybe they could offer it only on OTA boxes.
     
  4. mdavej

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    Yeah, I know all about the ATT remote. That's why I said "max". Was trying to leave voice out of the comparison.

    In any case, I sure hope voice control is a fad. Unless you're searching for a super long string of text, buttons are always faster, quieter and far more reliable.
     
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  5. mdavej

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    In the middle of watching Netflix, tell me how many button presses to get to the DirecTV NOW guide. With the ATT remote, it's still just one button. There's no way you're going to convince me that dedicated buttons are not superior to menu surfing with arrows.

    But, same as you, I use my Fire TV (or other streamer remote) 99.99% of the time. Nice as the ATT remote is, the app and Osprey box themselves are still pretty horrible and getting worse with every update. It used to have a live buffer - gone, reliable wifi connection - gone, fast loading UI - gone, fast loading channels - gone. Will be interesting to see how well diehard satellite subs accept this steaming pile of **** when ATT forces people to switch to streaming.
     
  6. BNBTivo

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    3 or 4 button presses to leave Netflix and get to the guide. It's pretty trivial. The more I use it, the less I care or even notice. It's a nothing burger. If you have one of the services that Roku puts on the remote, 1 button press... But even with those buttons I never actually use them. Pressing home and selecting a different app is all of nothing.

    I don't know much about ATT. I do have it at my office (sat) and it's a turd and the giant remote blows, but I don't hardly use it. I have Roku at the office and prefer YTTV by far. I just keep the sat since it's on my dad's account and I have a second box in the breakroom for the staff.
     
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  7. mrick

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    Boxes are relevant to me. My content comes from three places.
    1. Downloaded programs that I watch later. (Nvidia Shield)
    2. OTA programs that I record and watch later. (Tivo)
    3. Content that I stream. In terms of volume, streaming content like Netflicks is the smallest component.

    I have never had cable. I really like not having it.

    For streaming Netflicks, I can use the Shield and usually that's what I do. Does that mean TIVO isn't relevant? I have to have something to record OTA programs with.

    I just wish there was a robust box for all three. An amazon fire stick with kodi and amazon recast may be getting close.
     
  8. BNBTivo

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    Wha
    Whats Netflicks?
     
  9. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    It's a service similar to what Netflix used to be. Only $10/mo. and didn't spend a lot of money creating its own content of questionable quality. :p
     
  10. chiguy50

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    No, that would be Qwikster.:cool:
     
  11. dishrich

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    I had (still have them actually) Replay's & they never had any "mini's"..but you could network Replay's together in the same house. (I don't even think the concept of "mini's" had even started coming out before Replay went under...)
    But they DID have the commercial skip, as well as being able to "send shows" to other Replay users, & to your PC...which due to lawsuits, is (mostly) what caused them to file for bankruptcy.
    ReplayTV - Wikipedia
    Speaking of Replay & CS...I REALLY liked their implementation of their skip-forward/backward buttons, where you could ALSO use them to instantly skip forward (AND backward) ANY # of minutes. (eg: to instantly skip ahead 10 minutes, you simply pressed "1,0,SKIP, 5 minutes "5,SKIP", etc; same thing for reverse skipping) It was so easy & I'm really surprised NO other DVR maker offered this feature. (at least that I know of) WAY easier than "tic marks"!
     
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  12. NashGuy

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    It'll be interesting to see what Sinclair does with the Fox Sports RSNs they just bought from Disney. I think maybe they're going to be renamed to Diamond Sports. Also looks like they might buy the 4 RSNs that AT&T owns too.

    Will they begin selling them a la carte as OTT streaming services, perhaps accessed inside their existing STIRR app? Might they offer them as subscription OTA channels via ATSC 3.0, the new OTA TV system that Sinclair is championing more than anyone else? Or will they stick with the cable bundle and continue to only distribute the RSNs as part of cable and satellite packages? Aside from the RSNs, the only other channels that Sinclair has are The Tennis Channel and all those local stations across the country.
     
  13. BNBTivo

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    That's right! I had Replay long ago. After that I had Moxi boxes and Moxi had the Mates which were way before tivo did the Minis. It was a big deal because you didn't have to pay per outlet anymore, which was a new thing at the time, worked really well if I recall.
     
  14. Sonyad

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    I really miss the buffer on ReplayTV. Was is 12 hours or 24 hours? Can't remember. It was great for watching Adult Swim the next day.
     
  15. NashGuy

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    Some cable TV providers now have a "72-hour rewind" that applies to most (but not all) networks and shows. Scroll backward in the grid guide and find something you missed in the past 3 days and click to watch it on-demand. But can't skip the ads, of course.
     
  16. ncted

    ncted A leaf on the wind

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    Just curious what you are doing for RSNs with the Sling dispute going on right now.
     
  17. tapokata

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    No problems here in Northern California. NBC SportsBayArea and NBC SportsNorthernCalifornia are still available via Sling Blue. If they weren't, I'd cancel and upgrade my Hulu sub to Hulu Live.
     
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    ncted A leaf on the wind

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    Ah, your RSNs aren't Fox/Sinclair-owned then. Makes sense.
     
  19. iReyes

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    TiVO's Skip/AutoSkip + being able to download content off of the TiVO and encode it to MP4 via cTiVo are going to keep me using it until it is dead.
     
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  20. sd2528

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    Honestly, the user experience is what keeps me with TiVo and cable. The intuitive remote (8 second rewind is amazing) and the responsiveness of the experience moving through the content is something I haven come close to finding anywhere else. It allows me to watch baseball and football games in 45 minutes.

    Outside of the sports, is there any good device that let's you navigate streaming content close to as well?
     

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