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Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by ColinYounger, Jan 16, 2009.
427 - I have two. One is a spare.
428 - I love my TiVo Even the missus can use it and refuses to let me move to SkyHD because we'd loose the functionality of TiVo \o/
Do these count
No, because you're obviously being greedy.
It was the number of Tivo users still accessing the website I think we were meant to be counting? But perhaps Colin can clarify the position?
It was just a joke, doesn't need clarifying really..
429. Rarely on the forum these days. I have 2 lifetime subbed, 1 spare. The out-laws have two as well. My Dad finally abandoned it for some freesat rubbish that he struggles with and my mother can't even start to use.
I've still got my 2 on Lifetime.... shame we've been left out in the cold with no new models and features.....
2 in theory (second one hasn't arrived yet). Lost too many recordings on Sky+ and the 'new' EPG has reminded me how damned good Tivo is...
My m8 has just had SkyHD put in, he had sky+ before which worked ok for him, but he's well miffed with the new box, it misses recordings and 7 out of 10 times the rewind just locks the box up!
I'm surprised to see a senior Tivocommunity forum citizen suddenly embrace the horrid world of text speech and especially one of text speech's more horrid words.
My sister's first Sky HD box installed back in January was like that. She called Sky and complained and they said it was faulty and replaced it free of charge. The new one works fine and seemed quite intuitive during my play with it (no locking up or stuttering etc and over an hour's worth of live buffer) when I visited last Saturday. As I didn't stay the night (when I could have pulled it out to check the precise model and make or gone in to the System Setup menu and checked the manufacturer brand after they had gone to bed) I didn't get a chance to see what make it was and I dared not do it while my sister was around as she just does not understand about being technically geeky. To her only the Sky installer is allowed to touch her Sky box.
m8 is one text speech word I don't mind using, as for many other nationalities, the full word conjurers up a completely different image, I'd rather not think off. (that would be the original proper meaning, eeewwwww).
Would it be possible to ask Tivo customer relations how many subs they still have listed?
To be honest, and I may've said this before, I cannot see how Tivo can make any money out of the UK and have often thought that at some point they'd probably just make a commercial decision to pull the service and offer compensation to all existing lifetime subscribers. I can't believe that wouldn't be cheaper than maintaining its service.
So let me clarify.
Before you were worried your Tivo dial up service was not still working but now you seem disappointed that it has not yet been terminated. Also if you have had more than 20 months Tivo Lifetime subscription I don't think Tivo will consider that anyone in that position is entitled to any refund. They might possibly try and do a special deal with Sky to allow us have a new Sky HD box on say an FTA only basis with the Sky+ record activation fee halved to £5 per month if they ever pull out of the UK.
Tivo are just launching service in Australia and New Zealand and possibly still harbour ambitions to re-enter the UK with a PC or Freesat or Freeview based box and with that being so any leaving of old UK customers who bought Lifetime Subs in the lurch would be very damaging to their corporate image. Damage to corporate image is very expensive in terms of something on a company balance sheet called "Goodwill". So pulling out of the UK has very real costs for Tivo whereas I don't think that carrying on UK service is really very expensive for them in the great scheme of things.
Excuse a non-geek question: how do I stop this thread (only) displaying some 30% too wide? (XP, Dell Dimension 8400.)
I fixed it for you.
Yes I don't think they make money.. probably lose it, paying the one support person at Sky who still does Tivo calls (since most users have long since worked out how to support themselves I'd be shocked if it was more than 1 person). OTOH if they shut down support that'll make the news - 'Tivo packs up and goes home...'. Hard to recover from that if they wanted to come back - who is going to want to buy a Lifetime sub on a brand new Tivo if they've already left one group of people in the lurch? Even if it's only a small number of people, that stuff gets remembered.
I do wonder if Sky still have the exclusive rights.. could Tivo have been stupid enough to not only give them the rights to the S1 but to all future Tivos? I'm struggling to see why someone hasn't released a Tivo in the UK when it's doing so well in other countries...
I don't think Sky had any exclusive rights, Tivo merely used them as a platform to endorse Tivo in the UK and used Sky's infrastructure to man the call center etc.
Unfortunately, its like sleeping with the enemy and I still think to this day Tivo still has no idea what sort of company they were dealing with. I mean not only were Sky always going to screw them over on creating their own PVR (there was no question about that from day one), but they obviously had complete tabs on Tivo's business at their disposal.
Because starting from scratch is immensely expensive and trying to compete against cheap freeview boxes at £99 or less is hard. Someone who doesn't know any better (about how good Tivo is) will be very difficult to convince to go with a more expensive box especially one with a subscription model.
The cheap boxes could have improved their units 500% by licensing the Tivo software but these companies work by keeping the cost per unit down to a bare minimum and always think they can develop a simple interface themselves. This is where they always fail atrociously though and most people I know who have bought cheap PVR's from the far east, have ended up retiring them within a few months because they are that bad!
Belatedly, thanks very much. For some reason I didn't get the expected auto email reminder so have only just re-visited the thread.