Advertisements Interesting discussion about merits of HTML5 v. Flash, though not all of it very convincing. Some useful isolated facts, so thanks for those. First, not sure how relevant the h.264 patent battles are here (note: Apple is a big force supporting H.264; Steve tends to get what he wants.) That is not a pertinent use of HTML5 on the TiVo which has dedicated chips for video decoding. If HTML5 were used, it'd be for menus. And that shouldn't be too daunting a task. Second, while Flash is by far better supported than HTML5, this doesn't matter either; for this conversation, all that matters is what the TiVo supports. It seems obvious to conclude that Flash is the clear winner here because of the presumed existence of Flash acceleration hardware on the Premiere, but then again, we all know how sluggish that HD interface is using that acceleration. It doesn't appear to be adequate. Third, HTML5 support on TiVo is up to TiVo. I have heard no confirmation that they support any kind of HTML5 rendering. Could it? Don't know, do we? Fourth, performance. TiVo aside, Apple would have us believe that Flash is resource intensive and HTML5 is vastly superior, so good they find it suitable for handheld mobile devices with small batteries. iOS devices indeed have great stability and battery life, and some of their new HTML5 apps are really amazing---they feel as full functioning as native Objective C-coded apps. Compare that to Android which retains Flash, and find many more complaints about stability, poorer performance and battery life. Adobe is fighting back to keep dominance but the tide is turning. Right or wrong, Steve tends to get what he wants, and this time, he appears to be right. Fifth, will TiVo move away from Flash? It is hard to say because it is hard to argue they have even fully embraced Flash in the first place. Really they have only built a handful of menus with Flash and left the rest unfinished. Flash development isn't terribly difficult. In fact, this is where Flash is the clear winner. No open source technology is as easy to create apps as what Adobe has created for its Flash/Flex family of technologies. It is so easy I think it is safe believe all of the menus have long been designed and coded in TiVo labs, probably a year ago, though not yet released, I am sure they continue to tweak them. The problem is no doubt performance related although there could be a few other complications, perhaps due to some spaghetti code in a core system. Who knows. But I think it has been designed/coded but is sadly still terrible. A great UI with terrible performance is still bad for usability. They may even be waiting for optimization tweaks from Adobe, which has far bigger battles to fight in the web space. And TiVo itself appears to be distracted. End user customers are no longer their priority. I think they now feel Flash was a terrible mistake for this reference platform, promising fast and easy development turnaround, but alas running too poorly. But they aren't going back. They may switch gears for the next series or whatever they do next with MSOs, or they may go back to Flash once they have hardware up to the task of running Flash. My iPod Touch 2nd gen is old but gets betters cpu scores than my much newer Premiere, and the Premiere's alleged Flash acceleration silicon clearly can't overcome its other deficiencies, such as limited memory and bandwidth, hey whatever.