How do I move my Yule Log?

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  1. Nov 27, 2018 #1 of 223
    HarleyRandom

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    The recording was made in 2009 on a Series 2. It's some of the best Christmas music I have and I don't want to lose it. The same TV station did a Yule Log the next year where the music wasn't nearly as good. But the Series 2 had problems a few years ago and someone in tech support said it was probably a hard drive issue and I could send the Series 2 to be repaired, which would delete everything. Turns out it was a glitch with Time Warner's upgrade to digital, but this problem led me to buy my Roamio. I'm lucky the machine still works. I have the Series 2 hooked up to a TV with a VR, and I have blank VHS tape. Assuming the VCR can record and is successful, then I have to hope I can still use the VHS tape, because I have several VCRs that have gone bad. Another option is to hook up a cable, which I have been told will allow me to move content to my computer. How would that work?
     
  2. Nov 27, 2018 #2 of 223
    PSU_Sudzi

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    Why don’t you just transfer the recording from the Series 2 to the Roamio? That seems like the easiest solution. If you want to move the show to your PC, you can use the program kmttg to transfer and you should be able to copy right from the Series 2. From reading this post I’m not sure what is the main task you want to accomplish.
     
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  3. Nov 27, 2018 #3 of 223
    stile99

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    First question would be which series 2. If it has an ethernet port, smooth sailing. If it just has the phone and USB, bad times. Depends how much you want that program, but I believe weaknees has the adapter for fifty bucks.
     
  4. Nov 28, 2018 #4 of 223
    Mikeguy

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    An easy solution, pick up a TiVo Wireless G adapter, which has a USB cable/plug that plugs into the Series 2 box's USB port. Mine has been rock solid for years. Often available (including currently) on eBay and Craigslist for $10-$15, used.
     
  5. Nov 30, 2018 #5 of 223
    HarleyRandom

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    One thing I don't want to do is put another show on my Roamio. It's nearly full. I can't say I want the program enough to pay $50. I don't know the specifics about what Series 2 I have.
     
  6. Nov 30, 2018 #6 of 223
    Mikeguy

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    This is the back of my Toshiba Series 2 TiVo box. It does not have an Ethernet port--network connections to the box are made through the USB port (2 over from the phone line connector on the left side, going towards the center).

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    The cable from the TiVo Wireless G Adapter plugs into the USB port. The adapter:

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    The adapter currently can be found at eBay at a whopping $9.90 price (used/like-new condition; shipping included).
    TiVo® - Wireless-G USB Network Adapter | eBay
     

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  7. Dec 3, 2018 #7 of 223
    HarleyRandom

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    When I figure out how to connect the machine to the Internet, how do I actually move the program?
     
  8. Dec 3, 2018 #8 of 223
    JoeKustra

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    You connect the machine to your router.
     
  9. Dec 3, 2018 #9 of 223
    Mikeguy

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    Just for accuracy, you don't have to connect the Series 2 TiVo box to the Internet, just to your home network. (Having said that, if you add the TiVo Wireless G Adapter to your Series 2 box and set the box's settings to use it, assuming that you have an Internet connection, your TiVo box indeed will use that to reach TiVo over the Internet for TiVo Guide data, etc.)

    One thought just occurred to me: is your Series 2 box still under a subscription with TiVo (either a Lifetime subscription or annual/monthly)? If not, TiVo doesn't allow you to transfer content off of it, although your particular box might let you connect it to another device like a VCR or DVD recorder to make a copy of a show (I don't recall if that capability lasts even if the TiVo box is no longer subscribed--I think it does).

    Another question: is your Roamio box still on the earlier user interface (often referred to as TiVo Experience 3 (TE3)), or is it on the new user interface, TE4/Hydra? If it's on the old, once the old Series 2 box is on your network (and if it still has a subscription), it should appear listed on the Roamio's Shows listing towards the bottom--you then go into that, choose the show you want to transfer a copy of onto the Roamio box, and choose the transfer option.

    And/or otherwise, you can install a transfer program such as freeware pyTivo Desktop onto your networked PC. When you run the program, it will connect to your Series 2 box (as well as your Roamio box) over your home network and list the shows on your Series 2 box (and the Roamio), and then you can choose which shows you want a copy of transferred to your PC. (Once again, this requires that your TiVo box have a current subscription.) This could be attractive to you, to save shows from your 2 TiVo boxes onto your PC, and make room on the boxes --I know that you said that your Roamio box is getting full. If you have pyTivo Desktop's "decrypt" (read, convert) setting checked, pyTivo Desktop, when it transfers a copy of a show, will convert the more unique file format that TiVo stores shows in (.tivo) to the more universal .mpg format, which most PC video players will play.

    pyTivo Desktop, which was developed by one of the moderators here, is easy to install and use--if you have questions about its options and settings, you can ask people here. The program is available here: Easier to use pyTivo.
     
  10. Dec 11, 2018 #10 of 223
    HarleyRandom

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    I have a lifetime subscription for all three machines. I haven't checked to see if the Series 2 can be connected directly to the Internet. If it can. it would plug in to the same combination modem/router as my desktop. Guide data and so on is still being provided by phone.

    I don't know what the user interface is on the Roamio but it is nearly full and I don't want to add anything. The Series 3 is in an even worse situation. While it doesn't show percentages, every time I try to save a program I get "won't record" warnings now.
     
  11. Dec 11, 2018 #11 of 223
    Mikeguy

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    My recommendation: consider picking up the TiVo Wireless G Adapter mentioned in post #6 above (in fact, the specific auction item I linked to in the post last week still is available); and hook it up to your Series 2 TiVo box (via the box's USB port) and change the box's Settings to use an Internet Network connection. Your Series 2 box now will be on your home network.

    At that point, using the easy-to-install-and-use PC freeware pyTivo Desktop software program I mentioned in post #9 above, you can transfer a copy of your Yule log show from your Series 2 box to your PC (as mentioned in post #9), and enjoy it there or move the show to other devices for enjoying.

    With pyTivo Desktop installed, you'll also be able to transfer copies of other shows on your Series 2 box, your nearly-full Series 3 box, and your nearly-full Roamio box to your PC or an external drive attached to it, for holding there/viewing/archiving, and can make some more room on your TiVo boxes by deleting those shows off of those boxes (as you now will have a copy on your PC, which you always can transfer back to your TiVo boxes if you want (with the possible exception of the Roamio box, if it has the new TE4 user interface on it, rather than the earlier, standard TE3 user interface which has been around for many years--you likely would know if your Roamio box has the new TE4 user interface on it, as it is very different from the earlier user interface)).

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  12. Dec 12, 2018 #12 of 223
    PSU_Sudzi

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    If the Yule Log recording is that important, deleting a few shows from any of your other TiVos should make it easy to transfer it over.
     
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  13. Dec 15, 2018 #13 of 223
    HarleyRandom

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    It looks like I have TE3.
     
  14. Dec 16, 2018 #14 of 223
    V7Goose

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    Sounds to me like you have a bigger problem than just trying to get the program off your old Series 2 box - going clear back to your first post, it sounds like you really have no idea WHAT you want to do with that program or how you are planning to watch it for years into the future. The obvious simple solution is to just put it on your Roamio, but you don't even want to do that (and you have been given lots of info on how to do it).

    It is quite simple to record directly off the Series 2 with a VHS or DVD recorder using the red, white and yellow RCA jacks - but you need to have the recorder, of course. Trying to use a VHS tape is, in my opinion, a TERRIBLE idea. Not only is the quality really poor, but with the current state of the video tape market and old players, you are absolutely guaranteed to loose that recording in the relatively near future.

    Your only other option is to use something like pyTiVo to copy the program to your computer. Relatively easy to do, but THEN what are you going to do with it??? Your posts certainly do not sound like you are equipped with either the necessary software or knowledge to convert it to a DVD, but that is the only logical long-term solution.

    (If you can figure out how to get a PC copy of the .TiVo file, I will be happy to burn a DVD for you.)
     
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  15. Dec 16, 2018 #15 of 223
    HarleyRandom

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    What I do know at this point is that now that I've finally been able to get back there, I don't see a place to connect the Series 2 to the Internet. I'm not saying I can't put the recording on my Roamio but as long as I keep going over 90 percent, I risk losing something. During Christmas there will be fewer shows to record and I should be able to reduce the number of shows. But the number could go back up in February. I have the VCR and I just took out a new VHS tape. My concern is that one or both of the two working VCRs I have left will go bad.

    Watching isn't something I need to do. I only need to listen. I have no desire to watch a fireplace but this is really good music.
     
  16. Dec 16, 2018 #16 of 223
    Mikeguy

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    See Post #6 above. If your Series 2 TiVo box is like mine, it does not have an Ethernet port--you need to use the USB port. Easiest way: purchase and use a TiVo Wireless G adapter--the one mentioned in the above post still is available. Otherwise, you can use a USB/Ethernet adapter--TiVo has a list of ones that will work at its website. (Again, though, much easier: the TiVo Wireless G adapter.)

    If you then transfer a copy of the yule log show to your PC (see Post #11 above), you can use software to easily transfer the audio alone out from the recording and make a regular music MP3 file out of it, and play it like any audio recording.
     
  17. Dec 16, 2018 #17 of 223
    PSU_Sudzi

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    Hook up the Series 2 to your TV and load the Shazam app on your phone. Play the yule log and listen for each song on Shazam and then go out and the get the songs from iTunes or Amazon Music, etc.
     
  18. Dec 16, 2018 #18 of 223
    JoeKustra

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    In System Information, there's an item "HDMI Status". Does it say "HDCP 2.x enabled"?

    And please start your own thread. Thanks.
     
  19. Dec 17, 2018 #19 of 223
    V7Goose

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    Then just use your computer to capture the sound directly from the L/R RCA jacks as input to your sound card and save the file as an MP3. You can then play it at any time without using your TV at all.

    Of course, you could also record it on cassette the same way, but that is just as bad as using a VCR - it won't last long either.
     
  20. Dec 17, 2018 #20 of 223
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