How Do I Go Wireless with my Tivo?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by ahroy, Jul 13, 2007.

  1. ahroy

    ahroy New Member

    Jul 13, 2007


    I am about to scratch my Vonage subscription, and go with my cell as my only phone. I also have a desktop PC, connected via broadband.

    Simply asked: Can someone walk me through the steps I need to go with to connect my Tivo Series 2 box via my broadband connection (which by the way is on the other side of my house from my Tivo, thus my assumption that I will need to go wireless, no?)

    Do I need a wireless router for BOTH my PC & Tivo box? I am somewhat of a neophyte when it comes to computing, and would like to do this as cheaply as possible.

    Thanks for any advice put forth!
  2. mchabura

    mchabura Member

    Sep 22, 2006
    If you have a wireless router now, you can use that to connect both your PC and Tivo. If not, I suggest you get one and set that up first before doing anything with your Tivo. You can connect your PC directly to your router or use a wireless adapter. Next, you have to get a compatible wireless USB adapter for your Tivo. I would suggest buying the Tivo branded Wireless G adapter. You can be sure that this will work instead of using a different branded adapter and risking that it will not work. (I went through three USB adapters before I found one that actually worked. Then I bought the Tivo Wireless adapter, and it works so much better.) So plug that into your Tivo, and go through the Network setup to configure.
  3. fred_spasm

    fred_spasm New Member

    Jun 19, 2007
    Does it matter what router you buy? I notice the prices range from $29 - $79 for wireless G routers. Will a cheaper one work less well?
  4. JimSpence

    JimSpence Just hangin'

    Sep 19, 2001
    Binghamton, NY


    The most important part is getting a TiVo certified wireless adapter. The router shouldn't matter.
  5. greg_burns

    greg_burns Now in HD

    May 21, 2004
  6. ah30k

    ah30k Well-Known Member

    Jan 8, 2006
    Too many people buy routers with souped up capabilities that never actually get used. For instance, my laptop has an internal wireless card that is not "Super-G" rated. If I went for a Super-G router it would be a waste of money.

    Netgear has a good comparison here

    I don't think the TiVo wireless adapter is any more than regular -G rated so any router better than G will be wasted (unless you have a laptop that might use it).

    Manuals with the router will tell you exactly how to hook it up.

    Unhook your PC from your broadband access device.

    Insert a new wireless router between your PC and broadband access device.

    Reconnect your PC to one of the unused ports on your wireless router.

    Access the wireless router configuration screen via its built-in web browser. Wireless security is always a problem on these routers in that most consumers get confused by the terminology and just skip it. I can log into my neighbors router because he never 1) set a wireless encryption and 2) never changed the admin password on the router. I can log into his router, change the password, set encryption and lock him out of his own router. If you skip security to make it easier go get up and running without going back, be prepared for the neighborhood kids go porn surfing on your router.

    Plug a wireless adapter onto your TiVo and set up your TiVo (never done it but I imagine its simple to set your wireless key on the TiVo to match what you set on your router.
  7. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

    Feb 18, 2004
    Ontario Canada.
    You need just one router. It will sit at your broadband modem. You need at least one wireless adapter, for the TiVo. If you can connect your PC to the router with ethernet, you don't need a wireless adapter for it., otherwise you do.
  8. jfh3

    jfh3 Active Member

    Apr 15, 2004
    Denver area
    And, unless you have a good reason for not doing so, use a Tivo-branded wireless G adapter. It will perform better than most/all other options, since it offloads some of the workload.

    And you don't have to worry about supported drivers, hardware revisions, etc.. Well worth the extra few dollars.
  9. cokyq

    cokyq New Member

    Jan 21, 2007
    As already mentioned, if you do not have a wireless router, buy one first (a normal G router will be more than adequate - I use a Linksys WRT54G, I have seen for around $40), install it and make sure you go through the setup and get it working before you start connecting a wireless adapter to the TIVO.

    I recently switched from cable modem to DSL service and the DSL modem works slightly different than the cable modem. The DSL tech told me I had to use different subnet settings and DSL uses PPoE, which is configured at the DSL modem if its connected directly to a computer but has to be set as a bridge and the PPoE connection has to be made by the router. At the end, the subnet did not need changing and the default settings on the wireless router worked fine (the setup problems I had while making the switch to DSL seemed to have been with the DSL line not being fully configured on the day ATT had indicated).

    If you are not familiar with WiFi routers and their settings (particularly how to setup wireless security - DO NOT turn on wifi connectivity w/o setting up security), get help from a knowledgeable friend, it will make things go smoothly. Otherwise post here, many of us will be willing to help.

    Here are the minimum guidelines to setup your security...

    1. DO NOT BROADCAST your network name.
    2. USE at least WAP security
    3. TURN ON MAC addresses restrictions (only allow the MAC addresses of your devices into the network)

    Does anyone have any additional suggestions?
  10. RoyK

    RoyK New Member

    Oct 22, 2004
    SW VA
    A router is a box with one input connector (that you cable over to your modem like your PC is connected now) and multiple - usually 4 or 8 output connectors that you can plug PCs etc into. The router then lets all the PCs use the one modem or talk to each other -- it creates a network of devices.

    A wireless router usually has the connectors mentioned above and an additional built-in radio transmitter & receiver. Any "Wi-Fi" (wireless ethernet) equipped device within range of the radio transmitter (100 ft or so) can then use the network as if it was connected by a cable but usually at reduced speed. Many if not most laptop computers these days have the equipment needed to connect to the wireless network built-in so when one is within range it can easily connect up to the network and use it. It is also possible to enable some security functions in your wireless router to keep it from being connected to by unauthorized people.

    The wireless routers have evolved and gotten faster and faster. You can get a "B" router which is slow, a "G" router which is much faster and recommended for use with TiVos and the newer type "N" router which is faster yet but more expensive. The Linksys WRT54G model router mentioned by cokyq is widely available, fairly inexpensive , and works very well.

    For equipment that does not have built-in Wi-Fi capability you can purchase little adapters that plug in to the equipment and have small transmitters and receivers that will connect to the wireless network like a laptop. Your series 2 TiVo has USB connectors on the back so you will need a "USB to Wireless Ethernet Adapter".

    TiVo maintains a list of adapters that have been tested and are known to work (many won't work with TiVo) but the collective experience of people on this forum is that the TiVo branded adapters work the best and as others have said are well worth the money.
  11. dylanemcgregor

    dylanemcgregor Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Jan 31, 2003
    Corner of...
    Nice newbie summary RoyK. :up:
  12. catcard

    catcard MoxiDVR

    Mar 2, 2001
    Can a stand-alone Series 1 Tivo be setup to use a wireless router, too?
  13. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

    Jan 2, 2004
    S1 models are not networkable in stock configuration. No ethernet port, no USB port.
    You wouldneed to get a network card and then modify the TiVo. If you want to do this for guide data then check out some of the forum sponsor linksabove. They sell the hardware and show how to install it. Some might even install it for you for a fee.
  14. cokyq

    cokyq New Member

    Jan 21, 2007
    The following link has an example of an adapter that would allow a Series 1 TIVO to do wireless.

    I do have one question... does installing a wireless adapter on an S1 allow it to do TiVO downloads? Or can you use it only to connect to TiVO for Guide downloads?
  15. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

    Jan 2, 2004
    it does not introduce any new functionality as the S1 OS is several versions behind what is on the S2. TiVo has no plans to bring new features to the S1.

    so by hooking up broadband on an S1 you can get the guide data and thus no longer need to use the phone line.
    You could hack the S1 ti introduce a form of TiVoToGo but that is video extraction that breaks DRM and is not an allowed topic on this forum
    Also TiVoWebPlus can be enabled after hacking which does allow for management of the S1 from a web browser, including scheduling shows.

    check the underground forum here for more info.
  16. mattack

    mattack Well-Known Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    only for guide downloads

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