House 10/9/2007 (S04E03) "97 Seconds"

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  1. Oct 9, 2007 #1 of 44
    dswallow

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    Classic House, sticking the knife in the wall socket and "blaming" Wilson.

    Please, please, please, please let Foreman truly be fired.
     
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    TIVO_GUY_HERE

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    My love of this show is falling quickly.
     
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    "Thank you for coming to Tribal Council. A man of your integrity I feel I can trust, Big Love. And I don't call you that because you're a Mormon. (wink)" LOL

    Did House say that he fired all the other women on the team except the one who killed the guy? So that leaves what, 7 people left?

    Next week, by which I mean in two weeks: :D
    Is that the foreign chick that was one of the doctors? Looks like her.
    Oooh, House's trip to the other side, and the patient from this week "appearing" to the lady next week. Cool. "He says you killed his dog."
     
  4. Oct 9, 2007 #4 of 44
    TIVO_GUY_HERE

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    correction, in 2 weeks.
     
  5. Oct 9, 2007 #5 of 44
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    First: doing some quick research, they got the MDR1 gene defect part that causes ivermectin sensitivity in collies right (although from what I can tell, research is still ongoing to determine if this would also affect other non-collies, such as in this episode). They also got the dosage right that would cause ivermectin toxicity in a sensitive animal (approx. 200 migrogram per kilogram, which would be the dosage at which you would treat Strongyloidiasis). However, there would be a whole host of signs of ivermectin toxicity - it affects the CNS, so you'd see ataxia, hypersalivation, blindness, etc. before dying. I'll grant that the animal dying at the same time makes a "awwww..." scene at the end.

    On the other hand: House knowing right off the top of his head about MDR1 gene defect in collies leading to abnormal sensitivity to ivermectin? Please. Unless he practices veterinary medicine on the side, or has a photographic memory and a subscription to the Journal of Veterinary Medicine in his office, I highly doubt that he'd know about that.

    Plus, the whole fellowship candidate formerly being a vet? Please. That's 8 years of school right there to become a vet, then graduating and suddenly deciding "oh, CRAP! What am I doing here? I didn't want to do this! I must've enrolled in the wrong school!" and going back for a medical degree? And seriously - does she REALLY look old enough to have gone through undergrad and graduate school to become a vet, then gone back and taken ANOTHER 4-6 years or more of medical school and residency?

    I could have cared less about Foreman's plotline.... and the whole thing was SO anvil-icious it's not even funny. Plus, firing Foreman after one incident? Would they really up and fire a head of a department that quickly, except in the case of SEVERE medical malpractice leading to death? That was a bit ridiculous. (Even then, there would be the whole morbidity and mortality stuff that you'd have to go through first.)

    Plus, featuring the old team in this episode just seemed SO forced, like the writers said "oh, crap, WE'VE BEEN FOUND OUT! Now we have to go and write them into this show, now that the viewers have discovered they're still on!"

    Pacing seemed very off in this episode... the first half just DRAGGED. Plus, with all these fellowship candidates running around, they really didn't have time to properly address House's existential crisis... the whole B-plot there just seemed like fluff they jammed in because they thought the episode wasn't nearly busy enough.

    I hope they resolve this nonsense fairly quickly, because it's getting a bit like seventh season Buffy, with all the potentials running around. Too many people, not enough decent writing and plot development.
     
  6. Oct 9, 2007 #6 of 44
    scottykempf

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    HA. Only they're not Slayers. I like it.
     
  7. Oct 9, 2007 #7 of 44
    vikingguy

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    Some more great house/wilson interaction. I loved when they both gave the same stare and head tilt watching cuddy leave. I also loved when wilson tells house he is upping his pain medication and house says I love you. A downer at the end but every much needed not every patient should make it.
     
  8. Oct 9, 2007 #8 of 44
    stargazer21

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    When they were giving the ivermectin, I mentioned to Roger that that is a drug that you can't give to collies, and told him about a vet I know that did give it and killed the dog. I also pointed out that she didn't watch the patient take the med when the guys came in and started testing...only because that's a big nursing error. It also helps having a vet and vet tech in the family.

    Granted, I didn't think about the dog eating the drug until the instant I figured out he was dead too. So technically, I got major "House" points with this episode. If only I had had a white board, I might have put it together. :)
     
  9. Oct 9, 2007 #9 of 44
    LoadStar

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    Ditto (the vet tech part, at least.) :D
     
  10. betts4

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    I watched this episode and sort of am waiting to see what happens.

    The part with #13 not being fired was interesting but the whole thing with foreman imitating House (only slightly different) was a bit contrived. Even to the point of having a female head of staff to fire him.

    I think it will be a bit much if all three come back to House. I really would like to just be gone and let the new guys get started.
     
  11. mwhip

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    House has to have a photographic memory besides being incredibly observant and deductive. And would anyone be surprised if he has a subscription to Journal of Veterinary Medicine?
     
  12. zuko3984

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    I must have missed something but I didn't get the whole dog ate the medicine thing.

    If the dog got the pills wouldn't the patient know they didn't take the pills and say something. Unless the guy wanted to die but if he didn't know what was wrong with him he didn't know what he had was fatal. I must be missing something.
     
  13. That Don Guy

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    After what I saw tonight, something tells me that...
    The team will end up being surgery blonde, Aussie dude, and fired black guy (i.e. Cameron, Chase, and Foreman) - and then "press the reset button" so none of the people who were wearing a number will ever be mentioned, much less shown, again. Why else would Epps, Spencer, and Morrison still be named in the opening credits - especially now that Foreman was fired from his New York job?
    -- Don
     
  14. wmcbrine

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    The doctor put the pills down on the tray in front of the patient, and went to get some water. Meanwhile, the male team came in, pushed the tray aside, started various tests, and pushed out the doctor who'd given the pills. I guess the patient just forgot about them in the confusion. I noticed at the time that he didn't seem to have taken the pills, but I didn't make the connection until the reveal.
     
  15. Bananfish

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    Actually I think that's very realistic - firing someone who doesn't follow hospital policy and thereby endangers a patient's life would seem to me to be a "must fire" offense. Your sense of realism has probably been skewed by the fact that House pulls so much crap week after week and doesn't get fired - now THAT'S ridiculous.

    Well it's pretty clear by now that the old team will be a part of this entire season in some fashion, so it's hardly surprising that they're writing them in. I did like the "I could get you fired ... I thought you did get me fired ... proving that I can" scene.
     
  16. Bananfish

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    That really didn't make any sense whatsoever that he kept the screw-up. The only explanation is that she's hot and mysterious.


    I also thought the last line of the episode was interesting: "I told you so." I guess House didn't experience anything profound in his minute of death. His "I told you so" meant "see .. there's no afterlife and you're just dead" (he had told the guy earlier that "this is all there is"). Presumably he will be even more ardently atheistic than even before.
     
  17. zuko3984

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    Thanks I must have missed that. So then i would say it's really house's fault for making them compete to see who would cure the patient first.
     
  18. zuko3984

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    I think he kept her because he was as much to blame if not more so for the patients death. Sure she made a mistake but that mistake wouldn't have been made if House didn't turn the patients care into a competition for a job.
     
  19. scottykempf

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    Cuddy made the point that treating the patient is not a contest. House put the teams competing against each other. Plus, he was lying in a hospital bed because of the whole knife+outlet thing when the patient died. So it was directly his fault that the guy died.
     
  20. Jonathan_S

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    I honestly can't remember. Did she say "I used to be a vet" or "I used to work for a vet"?

    Because, while it might make a bigger stretch that she'd know the MDR1 gene issue, the timeline would work out better if she'd just be working part time in a vet's office during high school / college.
     

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