Advertisements What's the deal here? All I see from you is that you're on a D* bashing trip! I'm not necessarily a D* fanatic, but I chose them because they were the ONLY company to give me new customer status when I moved into my new house (I kept the same phone number as I had two homes ago where I was conned by a local company into activating Dish for a matter of hours before having it removed). E* wanted to charge me full price for the equipment and the install at the time whereas D* came out and installed for free. I have no choice as far as cable is concerned. THe local offering is all analog and very poor quality both in terms of PQ and service. Most of it is not even available is stereo, let alone HD. Thanks to this forum, I got a HR10-250 for free (yes, not just credits, but completely free. In fact, I even got $200 programming credit on top because the installer didn't show up when he was supposed to). Plus I got 6 months of Showtime, HBO for $2.00 a month for 6 months, $5.00 off my HD package and $5.00 off my programming package. I also got a Hughes HDVR2 AND an R15 for the grand total of $16.00 (with free installation and NO additional commitment). All I had to do in return is commit all that equipment to stay with them for two years, with the option to CANCEL AT ANY TIME AND RETURN THE EQUIPMENT TO THEM WITH NO PENALTY! Now explain to me where I've been "used and abused"???? Simple answer, you can't. Now you're telling me to throw all that away and invest in a completely unproven DVR from a company that has a very poor reputation for existing products? You're off your trolley! Now go away and sulk. Read Dale Carnegie's How To Win Friends And Influence People, 'cos it sure ain't doing you any favors carrying on like you are!