His Dark Materials *spoilers*

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  1. cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

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    The bear armor seems to leave a lot of vulnerable areas exposed.

    I suspect it's because of budgeting issues but a number of humans seem to be far from their daemons or there are a lot of daemon snakes.
     
  2. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

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    Just now catching up on last week's episode. This has become must-see TV for me. Interesting story, excellent cast. Dafne Keen (14 yrs old!) as Lyra is superb in her role, as are most of the others. I wasn't originally sold on Ruth Wilson as Mrs. Coulter, but now that I see the role she plays, she is also perfectly cast. L-M Miranda seems an odd casting choice, mainly (IMHO) because he's so well known, it kinda takes one aback at first. We'll see.

    I have no idea what is going on "long run" (and don't want to be spoiled), as I've not read or seen any previous material (Dark or otherwise :p). But it's an engrossing story, that feels fully fleshed out. Can't wait to see where it goes.
     
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  3. mooseAndSquirrel

    mooseAndSquirrel Well-Known Member

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    I kind of like how they're handling the daemons. No sense making every scene with a crowd of unimportant characters also be crowded with daemon action.

    From the books, Lee Scoresby was a favorite character, as is his daemon Hester. I'm not crazy about Mrs. Coulter's golden monkey - looks weird and fake to me.
     
  4. gweempose

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    I just got caught up after binging all five episodes. This is an excellent show! I have not read any of the books, but I saw the movie. I thought the movie was pretty good, but the material is better suited for a television series where they have much more time to explore Pullman's complex world and characters.

    I agree that the casting is phenomenal. Every character is perfectly cast, particularly Lyra, Lord Boreal and Mrs. Coulter. I'm hoping we will get to see more of Lord Asriel as the story progresses. He seems like a cool character, and I really like James McAvoy. I'm also impressed, for the most part, with the CGI. A lot of money clearly went into the production.

    Based on what we have seen so far, I'm assuming the Magisterium is akin to the catholic church in our world. They have cardinals, bishops, etc ... So does this mean that the church is essentially in control of Lyra's world?

    I love how Lord Boreal is able to move back and forth between the two worlds. It reminds me of Fringe and Counterpart, both excellent shows.
     
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    Episode 6 was great! That Sarafina is one badass witch!!! I guess Lyra just plunged to her death ... ;)
     
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  6. PJO1966

    PJO1966 Hi. What is this?

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    Is it just me or does Dafne Keen look like she could be related to Evan Peters?

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  7. heySkippy

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    Heh, just finished the 3rd ep. Until the end of ep 2, I was having these awful deja-vu feelings about the show. Then I did some reading and was reminded that I watched The Golden Compass some years ago.

    Anyway, I'm liking it more than I remember liking the movie. The girl from Logan is really quite good.
     
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    Really solid episode 6. Very tense and exciting. I don't think the show showed or explained how Lyra had Iorek put the spy-fly in a case to mimic the alethiometer's size.
     
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    They did not show it in detail, but they did show them capturing the fly on the ship and later taking it away to seal it up. They did not say that they put it into a box the size of the alethiometer. That may have just been a lucky break.
     
  11. mooseAndSquirrel

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    I'm in the rare-for-me book readers group for this, so that's how I knew this was somewhat purposefully pre-arranged.

    OTOH, weird that she strips from all her clothes and belongings that go into a locker, changes into the prison pajamas, but somehow has retained this box. Also weird that she was abducted in the middle of the night but still had her stuff.

    Serrafina is quite a bad ass. Who needs an armored bear when you have a hypersonic smoke monster ninja.
     
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    IIRC, she was not quite that lethal in the books. It took her and a bunch of her friends to defeat the Tartars.
     
  13. cheesesteak

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    Yeah, that didn't make sense to me either but I can let it go.
     
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    Another excellent episode. Lyra Silvertongue indeed!

    I don't understand Lord Asriel's reaction at the end. He sees his daughter, and gets enraged that's she's there. "I didn't send for you" or some such. Then he sees Roger, and is all "ooh what do we have here". Did I miss something obvious to explain this? If it's something that the book/movie explain, keep it spoiled; I can wait a week for the season finale. But if it's me being dense, by all means enlighten me.
     
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    It's a strange reaction. You're meant to wonder why.
     
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    Ok, thanks for that. I was afraid I was missing something.
     
  17. mooseAndSquirrel

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    Loved this episode. The bear CGI is really good. But it is no wonder this didn't work as a movie. Even 8 episodes is a rapid pace. My wife, who hasn't read the books, has needed me to explain a few things.

    Have we ever heard Mrs. Coulter's daemon speak?
     
  18. Steveknj

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    The CGI for this series has been great. I haven't read the books or seen the movie so I'm sure a lot of subtleties have gone over my head. I still don't know anything much about the stuff going on in "our world" for example (the mom and her son)
     
  19. gweempose

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    I'm enjoying the scenes in "our world", but it almost seems like a completely different show at this point.
     
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  20. Rob Helmerichs

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    Well, it's a completely different book! (The books don't get to our world until a later volume...)
     
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