Heroes - "The Second Coming; The Butterfly Effect" - 9/22/08

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  1. jking

    jking Become who you are.

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    I was kind of surprised to see the William Katt reporter character killed so quickly. I figured he was going to have a minor storyline in which he was the intrepid reporter who finally figured out about the Heroes and would eventually have to be killed or silenced in some way before revealing the secret to the world.
     
  2. jlb

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    This is heavy!
     
  3. Sirius Black

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    Is there some problem with the Earth's gravitational pull in the future?

    :D
     
  4. busyba

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    :)

    Which, of course raises the question, why even keep the forumla half in the safe in the first place? Why not destroy it if it's so dangerous?
     
  5. hummingbird_206

    hummingbird_206 Retired

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    I'm one of those stupid people then, cause I wouldn't have been able to follow which was FP and PP w/out the scar.:D

    :up:

    I'm torn between who is the biggest idiot on the show, Parkman or Mohinder? I wish they had sent both off with Molly, taking Maya Mexitwin with them.
     
  6. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    Believe it or not, I'm walking on air!

    I was hoping that he had the ability to fly.
     
  7. That Don Guy

    That Don Guy Now with more GB

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    FPeter wouldn't be about to go back to shoot Nathan, since he already did shoot him "four years ago".

    As for the girl Peter left in the post-viral-release future, he can't bring her back, since that future no longer exists as far as he is concerned - unless the evacuation was because of a different virus (they never did say exactly what caused it, now did they?). Like Mama Petrelli said, when you go back into the past, you can change your future. Of course, that doesn't prevent him from going back in time to some point before he took her into the future, grabbing her, and taking her into the current version of the present...

    -- Don
     
  8. ZooCaretaker

    ZooCaretaker Lock up the lions

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    I think we can conclude from Sylar's probing of Claire's brain that the powers come from the brain...

    So how does that work with Mohinder injecting himself with Maya's serum/cels? I thought he said something about powers coming from the adrenal gland and being excited? Does that cause the brain to change? And if being excited causes powers to manifest, was he excited when he woke up and looked in the mirror?


    BTW (IMHO) -- The need for Maya should be done -- hopefully she was just there to provide Mohinder with the serum to give him powes?
     
  9. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    I think she gave him a little more than "powers".
     
  10. Rob Helmerichs

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    What's also interesting is that he didn't kill Claire. Which means either A) despite prior experience he doesn't actually kill because he enjoys killing, but rather it's a side effect of "learning" the powers; or B) because the writers need Claire, and fudged it to keep her alive. :D
     
  11. TonyTheTiger

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    The two best lines in the whole show were delivered by the African...

    "Why are you talking to a turtle?"

    and

    "No service, shoulda got Sprint"!!!
     
  12. 5thcrewman

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    I'm glad they killed off The Greatest American Goatee!
     
  13. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

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    Hmmmmm... maybe the leisons on his back aren't actually from the serum but from some nasty STD he got from Maya. :p
     
  14. busyba

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    After which, Parkman should have looked into the camera and said, "can we get our money now?" :D
     
  15. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

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    She can't be killed, so whether or not he enjoys killing is still in play.

    Of course, he did say, "I couldn't kill you even if I wanted to", which would seem to imply that he didn't want to, so that could support option A. But that could have just been sour grapes, "oh, I didn't even want to kill you anyway...."
     
  16. sean67854

    sean67854 Why?

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    In the first season before the bomb, Peter told Claire that she might have to shoot him, and she knew where. I'm guessing it's like when she had the stick in her head. If they get a bullet in the right spot in the brain, they can't self heal.
     
  17. Sirius Black

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    Which of course is a violation of several rules of the Evil Overlord Handbook. Letting the hero go because it appears they are invincible.

    In the first half of season 1, the goal was to save the cheerleader. Presumably from Sylar. They did that. Sylar didn't get her power but ultimately it didn't matter because Sylar didn't end up as the "big bad" by the end of the season.

    Here we have Sylar again going after Claire, no one was there to save her, apparently she didn't need saving, and Sylar has her power. Does this mean that she didn't really need saving in the first season either?
     
  18. hapdrastic

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    Actually, that kind of bugged me - in the first season it was strongly implied that she could die - otherwise they wouldn't have had to "save" the cheerleader. Also, in mama Petrelli's vision Claire was decapitated...which seemed to kill her....
     
  19. getreal

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  20. jking

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    I remember trying to work out the logic of the "save the cheerleader, save the world" tagline at the end of season 1, and I ended up looking at it two different ways:

    1) Future Hiro was the one who said it, and it's entirely possible that he was simply mistaken. He had gone through a lot of "string theories" and the save the cheerleader thing was just his latest attempt at changing the future.

    2) The most obvious product of saving Claire was so that Sylar wouldn't get her power, but less obvious is that if she weren't alive, she wouldn't have been there to convince her father (Nathan) to take responsibility and use his gift to fly Peter away so that he wouldn't blow up New York.
     

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