Heroes "Powerless" OAD:12-3-2007

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  1. Dec 4, 2007 #141 of 228
    stalemate

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    Thank you! I could not place where I had seen him before. That had been bothering me all season!
     
  2. Dec 4, 2007 #142 of 228
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Ironically, the actor is American...
     
  3. Dec 4, 2007 #143 of 228
    unicorngoddess

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    Well, I put in my DVD of Season 1 last night and something hit me. I know everyone's been complaining about the SFX this season, but when you go back and directly compair, you really wonder what went wrong. You would think season 2, after season 1 was such a big hit, would have had a bigger budget. Seeing Hiro stop time to save the school girl in season 1 was awesome and I remember thinking when I first saw it that it was some of the best sfx I had seen on tv.

    Did the special effects team go on strike before the writers or something???
     
  4. Dec 4, 2007 #144 of 228
    Flyinace2000

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    Alright, i got some spaz questions. HGR is Mr. (Noah) Bennet but why are we abbreviating it to HGR? At first i thought it was Horn Rimmed Glasses, but that is HRG.
     
  5. Dec 4, 2007 #145 of 228
    stalemate

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    I don't know, you are the one who started it so we'll let you answer. The only place HGR appears in this entire thread is your post (and now mine).
     
  6. Dec 4, 2007 #146 of 228
    sushikitten

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    Nathan must live. Nikki can stay dead. Boo to Maya coming back from the dead. Boo to Mohindar overall - I used to like him so much.

    I am hoping that all these loose ends and plot holes come together in one whizz-banger of a Season Three.
     
  7. Dec 4, 2007 #147 of 228
    stalemate

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    I would have agreed until I saw her in those dress slacks earlier this season.
     
  8. Dec 5, 2007 #148 of 228
    TivoFan

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    Things are only interesting when there is a struggle. Peter, at his full potential, could defeat anyone (except possibly Sylar) without working up a sweat. The only way to make him a real character is to give him limitations. You have to limit his ability to use powers to make him interesting. Maybe by making it tire him out a lot to use them, or making him forget how to use them (already done) But seriously how many problems could faze him if he can just teleport in, freeze time, read everyone's mind and then kill the bad guy.

    Truthfully, most of the plot holes that are done in tv are done because they make the story more interesting and most people don't notice the problem while they are watching. We've been trained to suspend disbelief too well.

    Unfortunately writers have gotten lazy too. I know they are under time crunches but there are just too many things that don't make sense in most shows. I do notice plot holes and goofs. Not all of them, but enough that it makes watching shows with big errors not as fun.

    When you combine all the problems on heroes, the plot holes, consistency goofs, rambling storylines that don't tie into the main story very well (Japan, Maya/Miguel, Niki/Micah/Joan) and the slow going of the first half of the season, I haven't really enjoyed this season much. I still think it has potential, but I don't think the writers are doing a great job. If this keeps up, I may end up cutting the season pass on volume 3.
     
  9. Dec 5, 2007 #149 of 228
    johnperkins21

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    Wow, five pages and nobody has postulated that Nathan's killer is future Peter? Well then let me be the first. Nathan's killer is future Peter.

    I also kept saying to my wife and the TV, why don't you just walk through the wall of the safe and destroy the virus. With all the doubts about Adam, don't take him with you. Simply walk in there and destroy it. It was a huge plot hole.

    Overall I enjoyed the season, but am getting a little tired of these heroes being so incredibly dumb. It's endearing in a comedy setting, but here I want to root for good guys with an IQ greater than 100. They've written these characters as so incredibly lame-brained that it's impossible to believe they can actually survive on their own. I'll give them a very slight benefit of the doubt due to the compressed schedule at the end, but if our heroes don't start to at least show middle school level intelligence I may have to stop watching.
     
  10. Dec 5, 2007 #150 of 228
    TheGreyOwl

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    Not only could Peter have walked through the safe, but he could have entered the whole facility while invisible. In and out, destroy the virus, with no one being the wiser.
     
  11. Dec 5, 2007 #151 of 228
    nyny523

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    Adrian Pasdar is HAWT.

    I hope he comes back.

    That is all.
     
  12. Dec 5, 2007 #152 of 228
    MickeS

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    Yep. The whole sequence was a great example of lazy writing, where they decide on some cool situation and then write everything to get to that, even though it goes against the internal logic of the series as established previously.
     
  13. Dec 5, 2007 #153 of 228
    Sirius Black

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    First, it's HRG killing his daughter's biological father and now it's Peter killing his brother.

    Did anyone happen to catch where the press conference was held? Was it in New York or Texas?

    Why would future Peter kill Nathan?

    Who was the "everyone" that Matt was supposed to make 'pay attention'? Everyone watching? The entire planet? I don't think Parkman is that powerful.

    Matt and Mama Petrelli must have a power in common. They can both persuade people to do things they wouldn't normally do. If, in fact, that Mama Petreli has a power.

    The woman that Peter and Adam killed (well Adam anyway), what was her power?
     
  14. Dec 5, 2007 #154 of 228
    Donbadabon

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    That made me LOL.
     
  15. Dec 5, 2007 #155 of 228
    Donbadabon

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    Two issues I didn't see in this thread that bear discussion and analysis (that is sarcasm, btw):

    What about the blinking red light that showed where the hidden cameras were located? And that they all were in the vault, but no one noticed the light in the vent?

    How can giving a dead person a shot of special blood bring them back to life? Since they are dead, their heart isn't beating, therefore their blood isn't flowing. So the new shot of blood won't actually go anywhere.

    And for the record, all the noted plot holes don't bother me. I just enjoy the ride.
     
  16. Dec 5, 2007 #156 of 228
    Rob Helmerichs

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    I think blinking red camera lights on TV shows are like the visual blurs on Smallville...nobody on the actual show can see them, just the viewer.

    (And I'm actually being half-serious, or maybe even 3/4--it's a visual cue to the viewer, not meant to be something visible to the characters. It's only a problem when it gets in the way of the story, and the blinking red light is such a common technique that I don't even question why the characters don't see it any more.)
     
  17. Dec 5, 2007 #157 of 228
    jradford

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    It felt to me like the re-write to force-feed us an ending "worthy of a season ender" began the minute Matt and Nathan landed at Primatech. From that point on, everything felt off to me. The lines felt forced, the story wasn't great, and the whole "clip show" was awful.
     
  18. Dec 5, 2007 #158 of 228
    Kablemodem

    Kablemodem Get the ketchup.

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    This show sucks! I can't wait till it comes back!
     
  19. Dec 5, 2007 #159 of 228
    johnperkins21

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    The press conference was in Odessa. The seal behind Nathan said Texas on it.

    Who knows why Peter would have to kill Nathan, but there could be some reason. Maybe telling the world of their power somehow causes catastrophic events? He knows that he can bring him back to life though, so maybe that's the "Pandora's Box" that Mama was talking about?

    I still don't believe that Mama Petrelli actually has any power. And I don't think that the lady Adam killed had a power either. I think that they were simply significant others to people who had a power. Not everyone who started The Company necessarily had a power. Sulu didn't have a power that I'm aware of either. The idea that Mama Petrelli and Sulu had powers is simply conjecture at this point. There has been no evidence of it from the show or any of the online comics (that I've read to this point anyway).
     
  20. Dec 5, 2007 #160 of 228
    NJChris

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    He could say "Enterprise" like it's nobody's business!
     

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