Heroes "Powerless" OAD:12-3-2007

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  1. Dec 4, 2007 #61 of 228
    Sirius Black

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    I think some people here are taking the show way too seriously. It's a TV Show. Every TV show on the planet has a number of these same kind of inconsistencies. The biggest offender I can think of off the top of my head is ST:TNG. Aside from Micah's sojourn in New Orleans, this was a good episode. I'd like to see them move that forward tremendously but I'm afraid were going to get half a season of Micah and his cousin blaming themselves for what's-her-name's death.

    All that said:
    Why on earth is the penalty for breaking into someone's house to retrieve stolen property the blowing up of an entire building?
     
  2. Dec 4, 2007 #62 of 228
    danplaysbass

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    For all those people complaining that Peter should have done this or Peter could have done that think of it this way.

    Here is a guy with almost limitless powers. Had he used them the entire plot would have been (even more) anticlimactic and you would have complained. This is the problem with having omnipotent characters. At least superman has his kryptonite...
     
  3. Dec 4, 2007 #63 of 228
    Magister

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    Except that we SAW the assassin....
     
  4. Dec 4, 2007 #64 of 228
    dswallow

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    Maybe we were invisible too.

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  5. Dec 4, 2007 #65 of 228
    Skittles

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    And from the way it looked, the assassin had a very trim build. And Claude's not exactly a slender guy.

    Enh. For me, the 'finale' brought a weird kind of closure. It ended Volume Two, which just didn't cut it for me. There were almost no story arcs throughout the entire 'season' that engaged me, very few of the new characters appealed to me, and a lot of the old ones were so out of character that this just felt like a bad spinoff at times. It was like closing a book and thinking to myself, "Thank goodness that's over with."

    When Maya died, I cheered. I thought to myself, "Thank god! We never have to see her again except for an occasional flashback!". Of course, Mohinder had to go and spoil that for me.

    I'm just kinda meh about the finale, which pretty much sums up my feelings of this entire Volume overall. And the cliffhanger ending didn't hit me in the same way that Season One's did, because at this point, I find myself questioning whether or not we'll get answers in 2008.

    I will say, though... Elle is really starting to grow on me. Now that she's seeing her father for the villain he truly is, I really hope that things get a lot more interesting with her.
     
  6. Dec 4, 2007 #66 of 228
    stalemate

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    And I contend that regeneration should be enough to keep you alive in a coffin that is buried.
     
  7. Dec 4, 2007 #67 of 228
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Neither is HRG.

    It looked like Sylar, but then we saw him elsewhere in the next scene. It must be somebody we know, however, or they wouldn't have been so careful to avoid showing his face.

    By the way, although I continue to like this season a hell of a lot more than many of you, I agree with most of the logic complaints surrounding the assault on Primatech. And I think they were too pervasive to all be the result of the last-minute re-write. I thought at the end of last season that Peter was just too powerful to be an interesting or useful character...at first this season, it looked like they were de-powering him, but now that he's back to full force, he has become a serious storytelling liability again.
     
  8. Dec 4, 2007 #68 of 228
    cheesesteak

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    I think Peter has too much power. If he ever learns Micah's ability he'll be like every comic book hero and villain rolled up into one.

    I still can't get over the fact that Maya accompanied Syler as he broke into Mohinder's house and then started cooking like Rachel Ray. Since when is that appropriate behavior during a break-in and hostage situation.

    How did Hiro locate an empty, buried coffin? Did Hiro also have to fit in there in order to deposit Adam?

    Did Ali Larter get another job or something? Seemed like a cold blooded way to get rid of her character.
     
  9. Dec 4, 2007 #69 of 228
    Skittles

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    She had no idea that Sylar didn't know Mohinder. Sylar had managed to convince her that he was friends with Mohinder, and she had no way of knowing it was a break in situation until Sylar pulled the gun on Mohinder.

    The coffin was in the Nakamura family plot, so a good assumption would be that Hiro had it placed there as a contingency. He'd just teleport himself and Adam into the coffin, then teleport out.
     
  10. Dec 4, 2007 #70 of 228
    Sirius Black

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    Didn't Sylar and Mohinder hang out for a few episodes last season? They know each other quite well.
     
  11. Dec 4, 2007 #71 of 228
    Skittles

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    How does Maya know that?
     
  12. Dec 4, 2007 #72 of 228
    cheesesteak

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    Well, how'd they get in the house? Is Molly dumb enough to let strangers into the house? Wouldn't she tell them to come back later? Does she know Sylar from last season? I don't remember.
     
  13. Dec 4, 2007 #73 of 228
    Skittles

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    Molly would know Sylar, since she 'saw' him with her ability at the end of last season.

    Someone would have to have been watching her. And Sylar did mention in his phone call to Mohinder in last week's episode that he sent the babysitter home. It's entirely possible he persuaded the babysitter to let him in, then told her to go home.
     
  14. Dec 4, 2007 #74 of 228
    NJChris

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    Yeah, she just thought that breaking in the apartment was normal in NYC. Or did Mohlinder give him a key for their late night rendevous?
     
  15. Dec 4, 2007 #75 of 228
    Sirius Black

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    He told her. Sylar's trick to get Maya and Alejandro to come with him was that Mohindhar and Sylar were friends.

    We know as viewers that this is not true but Maya doesn't know this. You said they didn't know each other at all. Which by virtue of them hanging out for a few episodes is also not true.
     
  16. Dec 4, 2007 #76 of 228
    wprager

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    You can't regenerate something if it continued to die. At best he can be in a constant state of flux -- cells dying from lack of oxygen, then regenerated because of his abilities. But he still needs the building blocks, if you will, of oxygen, water, fuel. You cannot generate energy, you can only change matter to energy and back. He is in a closed system where his body is using up resources (oxygen, water, food) with no ability to recreate those resources. Regeneration is simply replacing dead cells/organs with new ones, but without the resources to rebuild them, he's stuck. Sure, he will last longer than the average Joe, but forever? I'm not buying it.
     
  17. Dec 4, 2007 #77 of 228
    wprager

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    Well, he was probably burning it down for either an insurance claim or he's in the protection racket. Either way, to leave a body there is just plain stupid. You don't want *anything* that can even remotely be traced back to you.

    But, then again, that "character" (and I'm using the term very loosely) was not shown to be the brightest star in the constellation.
     
  18. Dec 4, 2007 #78 of 228
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    I was thinking yesterday that the BSG episode was just ok, but still had a lot of enjoyable moments and I was glad it was shown. Then I watched this and realized how much further heroes has fallen than BSG. This whole arc was riddled with plot holes, and the characters have become increasingly stupid to the point that I really think the writers have no idea how to write a show about heroes in control of their superpowers. They did a great job writing about heroes who barely could control their powers. But we're well past that and now we have them having to behave really unintelligently because the writers are too cowardly to go where the storylines ought to go.

    The last 20 minutes of this episode was some of the weakest writing I've seen on TV this season, and I say that as someone who still watches bionic woman! The little ending with nathan could only have happened if he made a speech so ambiguous and vaporous that it meant nothing until his reveal, which was painfully long in the coming. How about next time you start floating immediately and talk about actual powers instead of "people have a secret and I'm going to tell it now! It's a big secret. Somewhere around the size of jupiter, but not as big as the milky way. If I had to say what color the secret is, it would be mauve. I've had the secret for 2 years 16 months 23 days 8 hours and 7 minutes. I think I first learned it shortly after getting a haircut at the barber shop on 18th street near the bank."

    Is there really any point to sylar anymore? His very existence just makes the show weaker and weaker. Apparently we are just going to have a little rerun of season 1 now.

    What was with peter blowing up the virus about 2 feet from his brother and then letting the virus dust blow away into the air around them? Sure, we can assume the virus would be destroyed in the real world, but not in the world of heroes where the dust blows away in the godsend pattern and is uber dangerous.

    The saddest of all is that I cared more about the micah plot in this episode than any of the others.
     
  19. Dec 4, 2007 #79 of 228
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Sylar mentioned a babysitter. Presumably, he talked his way in, got her out of sight, and "gave her the night off."
     
  20. Dec 4, 2007 #80 of 228
    Skittles

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    I mistyped. I should have probably elaborated that Sylar didn't know Mohinder in the manner he claimed to.
     

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