Heroes "Angels and Monsters" 10/13/2008

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  1. Oct 14, 2008 #21 of 115
    pcguru83

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    That's where I believe you're wrong RAKEN--this is Season 1. We're not seeing anything new. It's the same general ideas that we saw in Season 1--it's getting tired. Let's progress the overall story arc a bit maybe. How many times do we get to see visions of the future and "save the world"?
     
  2. Oct 14, 2008 #22 of 115
    pjenkins

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    i thought season one sucked at the end, a very large letdown and a harbinger of how they were going to treat the characters going forward. i think this season lacks pacing, character development/consistency, and a coherent story that i can buy into. i'll still be watching, i'm a glutton for punishment once i start watching a show, in the hopes it will turn around :)
     
  3. Oct 14, 2008 #23 of 115
    classicX

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    I just find it funny that her accent is all but completely gone.
     
  4. Oct 14, 2008 #24 of 115
    BitbyBlit

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    Yeah, it seemed clear to me too. If people are really misinterpreting the show this much, then I can see why they don't like it anymore. I wouldn't like it either if Hiro all of the sudden became bad for no reason. But I wasn't disappointed when I saw that scene because I figured there was more than met the eye.
     
  5. Oct 14, 2008 #25 of 115
    unicorngoddess

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    I still like it. Not too fond of where Mohinder is going in the storyline, but everything else I'm still enjoying. Actually, I was probably a little happy to see Mohinder trap Mya in that web.

    But I kinda like seeing Claire make this transformation into some badass leather bondage chick she's gonna become in 4 years. I like Daphne. I REALLY like the guy with the vortex thing going and I wish he wouldn't have disappeared. That was a kickass power. It's interesting watching Sylar make his transformation too. Hiro and Ando may not be as fun as they were in season 1, but that's okay. I was thinking Hiro could've stopped time, put some kind of chest sheild on Ando and a fake blood pouch just for show. But I think since Daphne is immune to his power, she would have to be in on the whole thing too. And also, if Mr. Parkman is behind the whole Linderman thing...we still don't have a real explaination as to how Nathan is still alive...
     
  6. Oct 14, 2008 #26 of 115
    jking

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    Totally agree. Much like that one season of Lost, it seems dissing Heroes has become something the cool kids are doing.
     
  7. Oct 14, 2008 #27 of 115
    whitson77

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    What happened to this show. It has just become such a mess. The storyline this season is idiotic. They tried to do a total reset on almost every character and expect us to buy this crap. This is almost to the point where it is beyond salvaging.
     
  8. Oct 14, 2008 #28 of 115
    tiassa

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    I'm not cancelling the SP just yet, but I'm now at the point where Tim Kring better have one heck of a "pay-off" for all the stuff he has made me wade through.

    I mean the meta-plot for the entire season seems to be "Let's make everyone you though was 'good' into 'evil' and vice versa". Not terrifically original, and the plot and character twists to make it happen are bordering on the totally stupid.

    Nathan was the only person who thinks he died, I'm willing to go with the theory that Parkman Sr, put that reality in his head. Perhaps he was clinically dead for a minute or two and the ER staff revived him.
     
  9. Oct 14, 2008 #29 of 115
    That Don Guy

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    That's my "A" explanation for Hiro/Ando as well. (My "B" explanation involves Hiro going in back in time later in the story and pulling Ando back to what would be Hiro's "present".)

    But since when is Daphne immume to Hiro's power when the Haitian isn't around? Hiro had no problem stopping Daphne when she stole the first half of the formula.

    -- Don
     
  10. Oct 14, 2008 #30 of 115
    unicorngoddess

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    She's super fast and she explained to Hiro that he wasn't techncially stopping time, just slowing it down. So when he "stops" time, she's still able to move around.
     
  11. Oct 14, 2008 #31 of 115
    TAsunder

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    I'm enjoying this season as a retcon / reboot. It seems to fix some of the problems with the characters. Sylar was boring before, he's interesting now. Peter, Mohinder, and Hiro are finally seen to be villains of stupidity this season as we have all known them to be for some time. HRG is back to being immoral at times instead of too good for his own good. Claire is finally acting instead of reacting (somewhat). The petrelli patriach is finally introduced, perhaps 2 seasons too late.

    Some of the retcons are for the worse, obviously. But overall I like that they are seemingly trying to improve on the flaws of some of the characters.
     
  12. Oct 14, 2008 #32 of 115
    allan

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    I'm not worried about Hiro killing Ando, mainly because I don't think he did (though I don't know how Ando will survive). But this show does seem, well, unfocussed. I felt sorry for Vortex Man. What happened to him really, um, sucked (sorry ;) ).
     
  13. Oct 14, 2008 #33 of 115
    dswallow

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    They can bring him back anytime by simply having had the vortex suck him to someplace else on Earth.
     
  14. Oct 14, 2008 #34 of 115
    waldingrl

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    Yeah, but I think I'll try to stay with it in the hopes that at the end of the season I'll be like "F Yeah that was a hell of a ride".

    Right now it exhausts me to jsut watch an episode. I go for liking it to not liking it to wondering why I'm watching it to trying to figure it out to wondering why I care...
     
  15. Oct 14, 2008 #35 of 115
    TAsunder

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    Has it been a couple of weeks now without parkman?
     
  16. Oct 14, 2008 #36 of 115
    alpacaboy

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    I agree. Like Claire is all mean and badass leathery now. I thought her destiny was cheerleading. Cheer, Claire, cheer!
     
  17. Oct 14, 2008 #37 of 115
    dtle

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    But she sees him in the "time stop" because she was in fast mode after stealing the formula. She was in normal speed mode when Hiro stabbed Ando.

    I guess the question for the season is it going to last half the year, or the whole year? If it's the whole year, you guys are getting impatient for plots to be developed.
     
  18. Oct 14, 2008 #38 of 115
    DreadPirateRob

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    My we are an impatient bunch. We're, what, 4 episodes in to the season?
     
  19. Oct 14, 2008 #39 of 115
    bobcarn

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    They seem to be under the belief that being shocked = entertainment. They're relying on plot twists from left field to keep us entertained, and it's not working. Yes, individual scenes were good. They were acted well and had decent special effects. There's definite entertainment in it. But overall? It's getting worse and worse.

    In two episodes, they turned Sylar into a good guy and Mohinder into a monster. WTH?
    Their main good guy, Peter, is now turning bad.
    Nobody really dies. Or rather, even if the character dies, they still bring the actor back (Nikki, Linderman).

    I can't believe Hiro killed Ando. It sure looked real, but it'll turn out to be a plan Hiro (and maybe Ando too) worked out beforehand.

    There were a couple things I liked. Like when Nathan said "If God didn't give us these powers, then who did?", and Jessica simply said "A doctor over in ....".

    The show can still be really good, all the writers have to do is just exercise a little self-control. They're just running wild right now.
     
  20. Oct 14, 2008 #40 of 115
    naiLS1

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    Maybe rather than thinking of the characters as turning from good to evil (Peter, Hiro, Claire), possibly we are supposed to see them as having to make difficult choices to accomplish their goals. Their choices are straddling the line between good and evil.

    I don't see Peter as evil now, I see him as having to make a hard choice (taking Sylar's power) in order to understand how to save the world. And Hiro had to appear "badass" in order to infiltrate the group of evil people.

    Sylar appeared to be conflicted earlier in the series after killing his mother. That's nothing new.
     

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