Heroes 10/8/2007 (S02E03) "Kindred"

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  1. Fraser+Dief

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    Ok, surprised no one mentioned this theory. (Or I missed it).

    Sylar *does* have the power of illusion now. He just doesn't realise it yet.

    The illusion you make is for *someone else*. There's no one else in that room, if there were, they would have seen Sylar's illusions.

    We have no idea what Candice has been seeing all along. Sylar is just assuming that she was seeing her own illusions.
     
  2. dswallow

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  3. classicX

    classicX Don't scream.

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    Just coming back to the forums, so forgive me if this is a smeek, but:

    Either the 8th or 9th episode or "chapter" will be called: "4 months ago" and will fill in the storyline from the battle at Kirby Plaza.

    An interesting note about the battle at Kirby - I read that it was supposed to be a really epic battle, with vehicles flying everywhere, but they just didn't have the budget (the director compared it to something like Spiderman 3, i.e. a blockbuster movie, that can afford all that). You can't really justify that cost, given the ratings, it would seem that most of the people watching have already been watching and the effects wouldn't draw in new viewers, especially being a season finale.

    Still, it would have been awesome to see it.
     
  4. classicX

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    I remember him from CSI: Miami as the detective who had drama with Calleigh (pronounced "KAL-ee").
     
  5. brnscofrnld

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    Yeah, I was thinking about that as well. The problem I have is how would Candice have figured out that she had the power to begin with then? Someone telling her that they are seeing something compleatly different then what is around them?
     
  6. Rob Helmerichs

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    I suppose in high school she would eventually have figured out that every guy in school she day-dreamed about thinking she was a complete knock-out who then hit on her wasn't a chubby-chaser...
     
  7. classicX

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    Occam's Razor applies a bit here, I think - I think she knows that she can create illusions because she can see them.

    If she couldn't, she would have no way of knowing if her illusion was effective or not.
     
  8. brnscofrnld

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    Agree with the Occam's Razor part, but I guess it makes it fun to think about how it would work out in Real life. The show as a whole should be looked at for pure entertainment value and nothing more.
     
  9. Rob Helmerichs

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    But Occam's Razor might also suggest that Sylar CAN still duplicate powers, and the only reason he thinks he didn't get Candace's power is that he can't see the illusion.

    Of course, Occam's Razor also suggests that this is just a TV show, supernatural powers are BS, and we're a bunch of morons for arguing about how they work. Me, I don't like Occam so much. :D
     
  10. TAsunder

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    Occam's razor does not apply to works of fiction.
     
  11. Idearat

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    That would be [Rube] Goldberg's razor. The most complicated, convoluted explanation that drags an answer out over a whole TV season is the most likely.
     
  12. classicX

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    Welcome to Season One.

    =P

    Anyway, I didn't notice if this was posted or not, but:

    Candace is really dead.
     
  13. ping

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    It was addressed in the graphic novels...

    She can definitely see her own illiusions
     
  14. allan

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    It seems to me that an illusionist who couldn't see her own stuff would be like a blind artist. It might be possible, but it would sure be very hard to do it right!
     
  15. Idearat

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    I didn't look at the graphic novels, but I'd think there's a difference between "seeing your illusion" and "being fooled by your illusion". To be effective you'd want to be able to step out of the illusion while leaving it for the person you're fooling.

    If this was not the case, then while Sylar was on Maui she'd never be able to leave the room and interact with the "real" world. So there has to be a way to present an illusion to others that still allows the illusionist to experience reality.
     
  16. allan

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    I doubt that she'd be "fooled" by her illusion, since she knows she's doing it, and exactly what she's doing (just a guess as I haven't seen the novels either). But you do have a point. It would suck if she walked into a wall that was covered up by her illusions. :D
     
  17. FilmCritic3000

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    I remember him from Creepshow 2 as the Native American thug who murdered George Kennedy and Dorothy Lamour in the first story "Old Chief Wood'nHead".

    http://www.thefleshfarm.com/creepshow/creep2P.html

    (He's in the ninth picture.)
     
  18. Hunter Green

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    As soon as he was getting the tattoo I was saying "he can't get a tattoo, his skin will heal around the scarring". I was very happy to see the tattoo heal itself off. Seeing "godsend" on the way was a bonus!

    +1

    During the final events of the first season, seven people got or were presumed to have gotten fatal injuries (Sylar, Peter, Nathan, DL, Linderman, Parkman, and the company guy whose name eludes me). One of those (Peter) had Claire's ability so can be discounted; that leaves six. Of those, three have definitely survived somehow, and it appears three died. That seems about right for the usual survival rate of mortally wounded people on TV.
     

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