Help with Cisco STA 1520

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by willard, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    I'm betting these basic channels are analog (and thus SD only). TWC still sends those versions of basic channels in many markets, including mine. I can connect a cable-ready TV directly to the cable and get these channels. But these are NOT digital channels -- note my previous post included that qualifier.
     
  2. Teeps

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    Please explain getting more.

    With your configuration how does TiVo get guide data?
     
  3. D_vadout

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    Can my question be answered concerning my tuning adapter?? Is there an update out there somewhere since my old cable company won't update my tuning adapter from their end since I no longer have TV service with them?

    I called Cisco and was told that it was the cable's responsibility since they have a contract through Cisco. Cisco won't help and Time Warner Cable won't help either. Can anybody help???
     
  4. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    You have your answer and how would you load an update to a TA anyway? It comes through the RF Cable, not via the USB connector. I and everyone else here, I believe, are completely baffled at how you could use a TA without CableCARD and a Cable TV subscription. If you hadn't ID'ed it as a STA1520 we would question if you're even talking about a TA.
     
  5. Teeps

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    Google is your friend...?
     
  6. unitron

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    If you bought it off of eBay then that particular unit is not TWC equipment, regardless of how many other of that same model they have deployed to their customers.

    Unless of course that unit came from them and the eBay seller never actually owned it.

    Is any sort of service from Time Warner Cable actually part of your rental agreement with your apartment complex, or is it just a case of, just like with individual houses, being in that particular geographical location means if you want cable service you get it from TWC or you do without?

    Before cable came along, basic TV wasn't called basic TV, it was just called TV.

    After cable came along it was called broadcast, or over the air, TV.

    Later, as cable became more than just a broadcast TV receiving antenna in a good location having its signal sent through amps and splitters and fed to a bunch of houses in bad locations, and they started adding extra channels, the package that only included the signals of the local broadcasters came to be known as basic cable.
     
  7. D_vadout

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    It's the exact same equipment as Time Warner Cable. When I had their TV service it's what they gave me which is how I was able to find another one on eBay. The person I talked with from TWC stated they don't sell their TA's and was a bit upset when she found out I had one. The only way I can get any help is if I re-sign up for a television package and I refuse to do that b/c of how much they keep going up in their prices.

    The TA I won off of eBay was brand new right out of the box. On the bottom there's a sticker with all the info on it and another sticker that says 'Time Warner Cable Equipment'.

    I don't know if my apartment complex have a contract agreement with TWC. All I know is I have two TV's. One in my bedroom only receive some channels-a few of those switched to digital TV. I don't have any equipment hooked up to that TV. Just the cable cord.
    My other TV has my Tivo hooked up to it along with my TA. I'm able to get over 200 channels with the TA. So it goes to show a TA can get more channels w/o a cable card. Also it can get more channels w/o cable service.

    So from trying to figure out if I can get any help I guess I can't b/c no one has really dealt with having a TA w/o a cable card or services.

    And please don't tell me it's not possible for a TA not to get any channels w/o a cable service or cable cards. It's possible because it's what I have.
     
  8. ej42137

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    So let's see; there's two possible crimes going on here, the receiving of stolen property in the tuning adapter you have now identified as TWC equipment, and the theft you are attempting of the cable service. The good news for you is that cable companies are no longer aggressively pursuing theft of service because digital has it mostly under control.

    I must congratulate you on have the largest set I can remember, calling the TWC to ask for support on the box stolen from them to use to steal their signal! The very definition of hutzpa! There are no words...
     
  9. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    This .... plus how you ever got any use out of a Tuning Adapter without a CableCARD is yet to be explained.
     
  10. unitron

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    Our house is limited to either getting cable service from Time-Warner or not getting cable service from anybody, so I sympathize with you about TWC prices and their steady upward climb (except for when the price stays steady but the number of channels goes down).

    However...

    It's not about what is possible.

    It's about what is legal.

    If you aren't paying the cable company it is not legal to access the signal on the cable just because there is a signal on the cable.

    Which is why I asked if some sort of cable service was included in your apartment rent.

    It is possible that this is the case.

    If it is, you need to find out exactly what level of service to which your rent payment entitles you, and go from there.

    It is also possible that this is not the case, that there is no arrangement between the cable company and the apartment building ownership and management, and that none of your rent payment goes to the cable company directly or indirectly, but that when you ended your cable service subscription the cable company did not send a technician out to disconnect the other end of the cable in your apartment from their distribution equipment in some wiring closet or basement in your apartment building somewhere.

    Just because they did not physically disconnect your cable from their system does not make it legal for you to access and use their signal if you aren't paying for it.

    It is not legal, there are laws which strictly prohibit this, and it is called "theft of services".

    Whether you or I or anyone thinks that this is not the way it should be, it is, nonetheless, the way that it is.

    There are probably places on the internet where you can get information on how to go about performing this illegal act. This site is not one of those places.

    Even if you bought the tuning adapter directly from the manufacturer and there was no question about the legality of your ownership of that piece of equipment, it would still be illegal to use it to receive a signal from the cable company if you are not paying the cable company.


    You mention a television set connected directly to the cable which receives some channels. Is this an older set which only receives the older type analog channels?
     
  11. unitron

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    I'm not Jewish and am not fluent in Yiddish, but I think it's spelled chutzpah.

    But I think what's going on here is not brazen, but fully informed, action, but rather a considerable lack of understanding of the issues (not to mention the technology) involved.
     
  12. Teeps

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    Ok, lets move past what is or is not happening with your and OP(?)'s channel tuning experiences.
    You both need to have the firmware updated in marginally legal Cisco Tuning Adapters, as provided by Time Warner Cable, but in your case questionable ebay sources.

    I can think of 3 ways this might happen:
    a. you connect with a disgruntled time warner employee that's working their last day and they authorize the t/a for spite.
    b. you pay time warner for cable service, maybe for only a month? And, hope the marginally legal Cisco Tuning Adapter gets the update.
    c. you convince a neighbor, friend or relative to let you connect your marginally legal Cisco Tuning Adapter to their service and make a call. And, hope the marginally legal Cisco Tuning Adapter gets the update.

    Maybe the moderator will close this thread.
     
  13. ej42137

    ej42137 Well-Known Member

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    Color me crimson; I actually am Jewish by birth although not culturally. You are indeed correct sir, I was wondering myself why it looked so wrong but the spell-checker didn't highlight it for some reason. My bad!
     

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