HELP! Tivo Premiere stuck in guided setup loop?

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  1. ferjy Fangle

    ferjy Fangle Ferjy Fangle

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    I appear to be experiencing the Guided Setup Loop Issue with a TiVo Premiere XL Series4 - Model: 748000 that was pulled out of storage. Could someone send me a link for the image? Thank you in advance.
     
  2. lprimak

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    Please let me know when you are done downloading...
    I will PM you the link shortly. It's a lot of space I'll deleted it when you are done with it
    There are two files, the backup-2020-04-20.vhd file is that I would try first.
    If that doesn't work try the other one. This one has the latest updates and will get past the loop.

     
  3. kpeters59

    kpeters59 Well-Known Member

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    KickStart 57 (KS57) has been known to recover a Premiere from this issue.

    -KP
     
  4. gabrielstern

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    In the past it worked, but this issue has to do with tivo turning off the software update servers. Hence if the tivo series 4 or older model has not been used, or the stock hard drive has not been used in more than 1 or 2 years then it gets stuck in guided setup. If their are any recordings on the tivo they also will be lost in most cases that tivo will not be able to connect to other tivos. So the only solution is to reimage the stock hard drive, or purchase a new one and image that drive, which might then allow the ability to recover the recordings from data recovery place,but that can be expensive and in most cases is not worth it to most people. The lesson here is to transfer your recordings to other tivos, if you have them or use tivo desktop or tivo py to back up your recordings before you stop using a tivo or put it in storage for a period longer than a month.
     
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  5. ferjy Fangle

    ferjy Fangle Ferjy Fangle

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    Thanks to all for the info.
     
  6. gabrielstern

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    Your welcome. I discovered the problem around 4 months ago, when I plugged back in my original 500 gig drive in my series 4 premier and that was stuck in guided setup, but because, I had copied it 2 or 3 times previosely and expanded it. I did not lose any recordings. I had to reimage the 500 gig drive, just to get the software on it, and then I had to using jmmfs just copy and expand the software to a 1 tb red drive, as the 500 gig drive had to much sector wear, then once I had the 1tb drive software up, then I had to run it through a clear and delete cycle, and now things are working properly. I now have a proper replacement for my original hard drive or source drive, but I am currently using a 3tb hard drive in my series 4, but I am about to temporarily use a 4tb image on one of my hard drives and finish pulling recordings from my romio, then put my romios original hard drive in and perform the rollback from hydra procedure, then stick my 6tb back in and see if the recordings are their, but just in case they are not thats why I have to back them up. I am glad my long detailed reply was helpful.
     
  7. Nov 1, 2020 #167 of 177
    lprimak

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    Did my images help?
     
  8. RUSHMAN

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    All, so I am in the same boat here. TiVo Premier Series 4, 500gb, TCD750500. My HD died. I still have the original TiVo Drive which I then used to re-image to a 2TB drive (WD20EURS Green). Now in the guided setup loop. Software version on the drive is 20.2.2.1-01-2-750. My guess is that it's too old and won't accept the updates via download. Can anyone point me to where I can find a base image for a more recent version and try to salvage my TiVo w/ Lifetime? Thanks!
     
  9. gabrielstern

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    Are there any recordings on the original 500 gig drive you care about? or is the premier 1 you purchased refurbished from a place like Amazon,
     
  10. gabrielstern

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    Either way I do have a 500 gig image just wondering if I register for drop box, if it costs anything or if their is another site or system or method so I can upload the zip file so you can have a fresh 500 gig image, you will then need to use a program like mffs. Tools 3.2 to copy over the image to your 2tb drive, or whatever program you used the first time. Also before you copy you need to completely erase both the original hard drive and the 2tb drive and use dvr barz, and then after image is copied run the 2tb drive through guided set up again, and then through the clear and delete everything cycle again. So the drive gets tied to the motherboard.
     
  11. RUSHMAN

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    I am not using the 500GB original drive. I used it to re-image a 2TB drive I had laying around. I would be looking to use the 2TB drive, not the 500. If can use MFStools to use the newer 500gb image and expand as I did with the original drive, thats fine. I have a full DB account as well, could provide you a link to load to my Dropbox if that helps
     
  12. gabrielstern

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    That would be very helpful with the drop box link, and yes I understand the 500 gig is not the drive you normally use, as in my premier I have not used my original drive in years, except to make copies, but I scraped that due to sector wear, and my original source drive is a 1tb red drive now, but I do not use it, I use a 3tb drive now, and temporarily a 4 tb drive which is to get some recordings out of my romio so I don't lose recordings when I roll that device back from hydra, back to the good old classic platform we are all familiar with. Romios are good because you can create multiple hard drives to back up recordings from different tivos such as the series 4 or even bolts, without having to go through things like reimaging in case of a hard drive failure.
     
  13. gabrielstern

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    If you provide me with the drop box link I will upload my 500 gig fresh image as my other 2 images are 2 big for you to use unless you have a 3tb drive you want to use such as a green or red drive. Or a 4tb drive, otherwise after you completely wipe both the 500 gig drive and the 2tb you will need to restore first using dvr barz the image to the 500 gig drive, and then copy using the method you used before to copy to the 2tb, drive and then go through rest of the steps I outlined to tie the hard drive to the motherboard.
     
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    Kerrits

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    I am also in a setup loop with Tivo 746320 that was in storage. Can you send me the most up-to-date hard drive image to get out of the set up loop. Thank you in advance.
     
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    ggieseke

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    Sent.
     
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    APD

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    Another TCD746320 pulled out of storage and stuck in a setup loop. Could someone provide a current image? Many thanks.
     
  17. ggieseke

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