HELP! Tivo Premiere stuck in guided setup loop?

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  1. Nola111

    Nola111 New Member

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    Thanks so much for all your help so far. I am doing a Full Erase on the stock 1TB drive now with the WD Tool. As you mentioned, it looks like this will take a few hours.

    So once that's done, I open DVRBars, click Restore, click Full Restore, point to the .vhd image file, and select the newly erased target drive. Assuming no error messages, once that's done, I'm ready to put the drive back in my TiVo? (I will determine after this run if I need to get a new drive).
     
  2. gabrielstern

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    Correct then follow the let it run through guided set up then once complete, go through clear and delete everything then repeat guided set up, also do not forget to save the image, in case, a hard drive replacement is necessary remember nothing is worse than having a head fail on a hard drive and it is very possible especially on a drive that old.
     
  3. Nola111

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    Thanks again for all your help. So I'm not going to have to get into the Linux stuff that is outlined in this post Rebuild Premiere Hard Drive from Scratch starting with step 8?
     
  4. ggieseke

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    You can use the Quick Restore mode since you already erased the drive.
     
  5. gabrielstern

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    You should not have to if you remember to save the image ggseiki sent you then if you do need to get a replacement 1tb drive which i recomend then you would just need to go though the steps I outlined in restoring an image using dvr barz, and the other steps after that. That is just more guidance and might have been guidance from when tivo still had the factory images on their website, trust me tge steps I provided is the exact same steps ggseiki provided me 2 weeks, and if you follow the steps it should work.
     
  6. gabrielstern

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    I also myself got ggseiki to send me a 3tb, and 4tb image for my series 4 and I have saved them, all and kept them, this friday I just did an image to a 3tb drive and then went through a 14 hr process of restoring recordings to my new 3tb red drive, i just had to replace my 500 gig original drive with a 1tb, because 500 gig red desktop drives are not made anymore, and that is just a source drive for my original recordings, I also created in my romio using an extra brand new red 3tb drive a drive of those same recordings, that i had pulled from an older 3tb drive i was using in my premier until a month ago, in that case the recordings were good but the software was corrupted, thats why i also said ggseiki's images are better than the original images, because using a program called mffs tools 3.2 he was able to create them himself, i guess from other tivos he had, and then clean them up so they do not cause as much sector wear on the drives,while also having all the software updates in them for the series 4 tivos.
     
  7. gabrielstern

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    In my case it was really complicated because I had drives that were copied 2 times from my original hard drive, once in 2015 and once last year, but by then the original software had started to become corrupted without me realizing it at the time. So the this year I went to copy it again so I could get extra recordings out of my other 2 tivos, and when I put my new red 3tb drive in the device it got stuck in guided setup and would not come out of it, so that's when I put the original hard drive in to trouble shoot the issue and it would keep restarting every 10 minutes, i ended up having to use my last drive i had used and then copying it to my red 3tb drive instead, and that is what allowed me to rebuild 2 different drives for my series 4.
     
  8. Nola111

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    HI @gabrielstern - thank you again for all your advice. The erasure of the hard drive took 8 hours so I let that run overnight. Now I'm stuck again as I'm still getting that Write error in DVRBars. I've posted about it in the DVRBars thread and ggieseke said it means that something else in Windows besides DVRBars is accessing the disk. I have no other applications open so I can't understand what it can be. I've posted back on that thread and waiting to hear back from him. Let me know if you ran into this particular error during your process. Thanks.
     
  9. gabrielstern

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    I did run into that error a couple of times try switching the image file from vhd to all files also if it took 8hrs to erase the disk your hard drive might be worn like i was trying to mention to you. Also you may want to try extract the file to a folder and naming the folder tivo xl, in my case for each image ,I stored for example I named my 500 gig stock image tivo premier 500 gig image, and for my 3tb image file I named the file folder tivo premier 3tb image file,
     
  10. gabrielstern

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    Is your USB ports 2.0 or 3.0 and how old is your computer. If it is a computer that is 10 years old that would explain possibly why it took so long, meanwhile you should reopen the western digital lifeguard program and run a drive integrity test on the tivo drive, and just so you know the stock drives in the series 4 and romios were western digital green drives that were called avds, and they as well as the green drives are no longer made, and they had a feature in them called intelipower, which would slow the spin speed down when not in use, the newer green drives before they were discontinued in late 2016 early 2017 were better drives than the avds drives and came with a 64mb cache rate. It might sound like useless information but it is not so the proper replacement hard drives for the series 4 and romios are now western digital red drives that are the efrx series, as they also have 64mb cache rates and use intelipower, as for your tivo never get any other type of drive or brand including the black series or purple or blue series if it is western digital, and do not ever put any other brand of hard drive in it including seagate drives, and do not ever put a drive in a tivo that runs always at 7200 rpms or greater, and stay away from the western digital red drives model series efax.
     
  11. ggieseke

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    Purple drives are fine. That's what Weaknees sells.
     
  12. gabrielstern

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    If it turns out you do need a new hard drive i know a place where you can order online the proper replacent drive for your tivo as i believe it is a 1tb drive that came in the xl series 4s, and that would cost around 72 dollars after tax.
     
  13. Nola111

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    @gabrielstern the hard drive is fine and is passing all tests. I'm not concerned with how long the erasure took, I was just highlighting it. The enclosure I'm using is USB 2.0 which probably explains it. The computer I'm using is only a year old.

    I just need to get past this Write error now...
     
  14. gabrielstern

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    Purple drives i am a little hesitant about do they have intelipower also? I am also a little hesitant about weaknees. microcenter.com sells the red model efrx drives, and a 1tb is around 72 us dollars after tax. a 3tb is around 110 us dollars after tax, but i am not sure if they ship oversees,but a good place to get for now those specific model red drives if you live in the United states.
     
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  16. gabrielstern

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    I believe this is because ggseiki who developed this program put lots of safeguards in to prevent the accidental erasing of other hard drives that might be attached to the computer. he can correct me if I am wrong.
     
  17. jmbach

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    I believe he spells it ggieseke

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  18. gabrielstern

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    Sorry sometimes I mess up with spelling
     
  19. Nola111

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    @gabrielstern I have everything up and running successfully with the new image. Thanks for all your advice and help.
     
  20. gabrielstern

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    Your welcome.
     

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