HELP! Tivo Premiere stuck in guided setup loop?

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  1. Nola111

    Nola111 New Member

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    Hi Gabriel,

    Thanks for your post. I do NOT care about losing my existing recordings, and DO have another TiVo at my disposal. I am actually sitting here at my computer about to run DvrBARS with the image ggseiki sent. Should I take a different approach, based on my answers to your questions?
     
  2. gabrielstern

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    The only thing I would recommend is replacing the hard drive with a western digital red 1tb hard drive model efrx not eFax model, i believe the xl dvrs came with 1tb drives, do not get any other model or brand name hard drives, otherwise follow ggseiki's instructions to a tee, also do not forget to label and save his image he sent you. Either way do not rush also do not forget if you do decide to use your stock hard drive to download, western digital lifeguard utility and run a full erase before proceeding with ggseiki's instructions, either way you will be okay. Also do not let windows format or assign a drive letter to that drive.
     
  3. Nola111

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    Hi Gabriel,

    Thanks again for that advice. Because time is of the essence, I am going to use my existing drive. Plus, I have a Lifetime Subscription associated with it, so don't I have to use the existing drive to keep that lifetime subscription?
     
  4. gabrielstern

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    Also ggseiki has images for a 3tb and 4tb drive if you ever wanted to go bigger, otherwise my recommendation moving forward is to use tivo desktop plus if you have it and to download tivo py, from that forum so if you ever want to transfer recordiings back to that dvr you can. Finnaly stay away from any tivo such as the edge dvr or bolt vox models, if you ever decide to get another tivo, romios or good or the non vox first generation bolts. The reason I say this is they come preloaded with the hydra platform and can not be reverted back to the classic platform we are all familiar with.
     
  5. gabrielstern

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    You do not, I have lifetime subscriptions on 3 tivos my premier, my romio,and my bolt, and I have not used my stock hard drive in my romio since 2015, my bolt also i have a much bigger drive in it. Also tivo no longer offers support on any of the series 4 and older dvrs, thats why it got stuck in the first place, in my case my recordings got preserved because I had not used the stock hard drive in it for almost 5 years.
     
  6. Nola111

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    @gabrielstern So then if I'm able to fully erase the drive first, how is my lifetime subscription associated with my box??
     
  7. gabrielstern

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    Also tivo technical support is useless the tivo community forum has way more knowledgeable people in it then tivo technical support. But my best advice is go with a new 1tb red efrx model since green drives are not made anymore. It will make the process a lot smoother and easier, and less time consuming as far as restoring an image.
     
  8. gabrielstern

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    It is based off of the motherboard, I believe once you do restore the image and put the drive back in it is going to treat it like a factory fresh tivo and you will have to repeat guided set up, and the go through clear and delete everything, after coming out of guided setup, and then repeat guided setup 1 more time to tie the hard drive to the motherboard, then check the system information screen to make sure the tivo lifetime subscriptions service number is there, either way follow ggseiki's instructions down to every detail so you do not lose recordings again 6 month later
     
  9. Nola111

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    I can't thank you enough for your help. One last question, can you please direct me to ggseiki's instructions that you refer to? I have browsed this forum looking for them, but I don't see them?
     
  10. gabrielstern

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    Hopefully that explains more fully why you can use a different drive then the one your tivo came with. Tivo also use to have on their website factory images for the series 4 and older tivos for if a hard drive failed, but they took those images down.
     
  11. gabrielstern

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    Send him a reply if you like under the image sent section or I can guide you through it, if you like.
     
  12. gabrielstern

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    Did you download the dvr barz software yet
     
  13. Nola111

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    Yes, it's downloaded and I have it running on my Windows 10 computer. I have the TiVo hard drive connected to my computer via USB. DVRBars recognizes the drive but when I try to do a Quick Restore with the image, I get an error window that just says "Write" with a red X. Is this because I have to use the WD tool to erase the drive first? I haven't done that yet.
     
  14. Nola111

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    I am at the ready to erase the drive but I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything... you've said three times now to follow ggsieke's instructions to a tee, but I don't see these detailed instructions anywhere. All I see are the instructions in the first post of the DVRBars thread. Is there something more I need to know to not "lose my recorded shows again in 6 months?" Just curious what these detailed instructions of ggsieke's are comprised of....
     
  15. gabrielstern

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    Yes do you have the western digital life guard utilities downloaded yet if not download that now. Then once it is downloaded open it up look for the western digital 1tb drive then select it, then right click once the drive is selected and select drive erase then select full erase, this process might take 2 or 3hrs to complete.
     
  16. Nola111

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    Thank you. Is there any particular reason not to use Quick Erase?
     
  17. gabrielstern

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    After that you will need to open up dvr barz.
    Select the restore option and select full restore and then it should be either the image or drive selection next if it is the image. Then next you will need to go find the downloads section and select the image and choose extract too and select a folder to extract the image too. After that is done dvr barz should ask you to select a target drive, once that happens look for the western digatal 1tb drive with the model number and select that as your target drive.
     
  18. gabrielstern

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    I also kept getting errors the first time I did it on my original 500 gig drive, and after I put it back in my tivo and went through the process, and then started restoring my recordings to it a couple would not transfer back to my tivo, so I ended up using a software program called jmfs revision 4 copying that drive to a new 1tb red drive since that programs also can expand and supersize the sectors up to 2 and a half terabytes. Then on the 1tb drive running it through the clear and delete everything cycle and repeating guided setup, and then all my recordings successfully transfered. Thats why I am suggesting if you need to in case their is fragmention on your original hard drive replacing it.
     
  19. gabrielstern

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    Yes all the sectors need to be wiped so once the image is restored it is a clean as possible image on the drive.
     
  20. gabrielstern

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    And just in case you do decide to scrap the stock drive in case their is fragmentation or it runs slowly i can direct you where to find a suitable replacement if you live in the US like me. Suitable replacements are not that expensive i got my 1tb red drive for 72 dollars after tax
     

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