HELP! Tivo Premiere stuck in guided setup loop?

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  1. Jun 9, 2020 #61 of 116
    ggieseke

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    Mickey90

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    Same thing happened to my TCD746500, only I tried to reset mine and now it's in a continuous guided setup loop. After attempting to kickstart the troubleshooting via the remote, followed by much research that ended up pointing me to this website, it seems that the only thing left to do is to pull the HDD out of the TiVo box and re-install the factory image. The only issue now is that after almost two days searching for it I still can't find it anywhere. Does anybody have a backup of the factory image for a TCD746500?
     
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    Mickey90

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    Thanks!
     
  5. Jun 11, 2020 #65 of 116
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    I tried the image provided by Greg on a 500 Gig disk and it did not work - said the image was bigger than the disk. Used a 1 tb and it worked great! Thanks - do you have a Paypal Greg?
     
  6. Jun 12, 2020 #66 of 116
    ggieseke

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    Your post said that you have a Premiere XL. That should be a TCD748000, which came from the factory with a 1TB drive. If you have a different model let me know and I will send you the correct image.

    The first post in my MFS Reformatter thread has a Paypal link.
     
  7. Jun 12, 2020 #67 of 116
    gabrielstern

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    Yep me too I have the mfsr linux software for copying my premier drive and I copied my 500 gig drive to a 3tb and put the 3tb in my premier and it gets stuck also figured out problem is in my original drive as since I can't use tivo desktop anymore since my bolt and romio run the hydra system I brought my premier out of retirement last year so I could back up programs and free up space on my other 2 tivo until I can downgrade my romio again, now trying to copy my 3tb green to a 3tb red drive using the linux based mfsr program since that took the software update last year, if i had known tivo was going to pull this stunt I would have plugged the original drive back in last year just to update the software, since I had not plugged that drive in since 2015. The issue is with tivo's servers no longer detecting and deploying the software updates to older software, i wish rovi had never bought tivo in 2017, they don't know what they are doing, and obsess over patents and suing everyone vs focusing on what hard core users loved about tivo in the first, as for the hydra system the layout works great but they messed up by not making sure they retained features like being able to transfer recordings directly to any box without using tivo online and making sure they retained the feature of being able to transfer a backed up recording from tivo desktop to tivo's running hydra, thats why i brought my premier out of retirement after 6 months in 2018, but I am working on and getting ready to test my idea concerning using my romio to do it, if I am successfull I will post my results
     
  8. Jun 26, 2020 #68 of 116
    OCSean

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    It seems I am joining the outdated s/w club. I have a TiVo Series 4 - TCD746320 stuck in the setup loop.

    Can I also get the updated software?

    Is there an instruction page that can help me figure out how to install it? I can get the h/d out and connected to my Mac via USB; is there MacOS software that will work or do I need to find my very old Windoze laptop?

    If it is just a h/d image, can I do a dd type of command on a terminal on my Mac to copy the image to the h/d?

    Thanks!
     
  9. Jun 26, 2020 #69 of 116
    gabrielstern

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    Is it the original hard drive you are using that is stuck like mine is, in my case I had 2 other drives that I copied my original 500 gig drive too in the past and those are still good which I used a mfsr copy program to copy that drive too, in my case I used my 3tb previosely expanded drive to copy to another 3tb drive and that solved my problem but if you do not have any other drives that had the software updates deployed too in the past 2 years or year their is not much else I can suggest at this time to get your premiere out of guided setup in my case I was glad I had made copies of the original drive, but had I known tivo would become a mess once rovi acquired them i would have put the original hard drive in my premier to deploy any software updates to it once a year, as I use my premier device now mainly as a back up and to store extra recordings and also because it is the only device I can use as an interface to use to deploy using tivo desktop plus to back up recordings into my computer and then use a program called py desktop to deploy recordings back to the premiere just so i can then use tivo online to move to my other tivo's. Another suggestion I may have is consider purchasing on Amazon used a romio pro or a first generation bolt and install a 3tb hard drive in it but if you go that route do not update the software to the hydra system unless you have another tivo that is still running the classic software and do not buy an edge or a tivo bolt vox as those come pre-installed and formated with the hydra system, i hope my advice helps and I have one last question for you, are their any recordings currently in your premier and if so did you use tivo desktop plus to back them up at any point.
     
  10. Jun 26, 2020 #70 of 116
    gabrielstern

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    Also with the bolts they have laptop sized hard drives vs the desktop drives the romios and the premiers had but their is a way with the bolt to use a desktop drive instead of the notebook sized drive involving a sata and power extender cable a vinyl storage case enclosure and velcro sticky tabs to affix the drive to the top of the bolt, in either case i recommend using the western digital red drives since the western digital green drives that the series 4 and romios used are no longer made by western digital, again i hope this information helps.
     
  11. Jun 26, 2020 #71 of 116
    gabrielstern

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    Do you have that image also for a tivo premier in my case it is my original 500 gig drive that is stuck which I have copied previously 3 times to other drives but the copying software is the 2010 mfsr copy software which only allows about 2 and half terabytes of capacity even though one of my copied drives is a 4tb and the other is a 3tb is their an updated version of that software that will allow me to expand my previously copied drives to their maximum capacity. If so can you please upload these.
     
  12. Jun 26, 2020 #72 of 116
    OCSean

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    Thanks for your reply gabrielstern.

    I am pretty sure the hard drive is original in the Series 4. I just bought this Tivo Series 4 on eBay for $30, delivered today. Since I have yet to get it working, it has no recordings, of mine anyway.

    The only other Tivo I have is a TiVo Roamio Plus that does not do OTA recordings; I bought this Series 4 to get OTA shows since I am cutting the cord with CableTV. Is the Roamio software the same as the Series 4? Could I just put the Roamio drive into my Series 4?

    I've stopped using the Roamio because Cable TV in my location is just way overpriced. Other than a few recordings on the Roamio, it's not really being used for anything anymore.
     
  13. Jun 26, 2020 #73 of 116
    gabrielstern

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    You can still use the romio plus and keep it connected to your home network to use to view recordings now on your romio plus did you update it to the hydra system or is it still running the classic platform as bolts and romios are easier to work with but my first suggestion would be to go to Amazon and get the first generation 4 tuner bolt as that also offers the Ota option as well as cable, and see if you can return the premier, and then follow my suggestion recording mounting a desktop drive on top of the bolt and if you do go that route I recommend a 6tb or 8tb western digital red drive, and also would direct you to the forum on using the mfsr reformattor for romios and bolts and follow the instructions also Ross walkers site would be helpful as well you can find his site by typing in the Google search bar tivo hard drive upgrade and the link to his site will come up, finely to be in the safe side and if you did buy a used bolt get the white colored one from Amazon but either case do not get a bolt vox or tivo edge as the come preinstalled with the hydra platform.
     
  14. Jun 26, 2020 #74 of 116
    gabrielstern

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    I meant in one paragraph that romios and bolts are easier to work with vs the tivo series 4s or earlier.
     
  15. Jun 26, 2020 #75 of 116
    gabrielstern

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    You can not put the romio drive in the series 4, with the romios and bolts they come with an auto format facility that will auto format any drive up to 3tb but if you want any bigger size drive you would need to use the mfsr reformator and that can format up to 8tbs for either the romio series or bolt series.
     
  16. Jun 26, 2020 #76 of 116
    OCSean

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    Thanks gabrielstern; I did not think that the Roamio drive would work in the Series 4, but wanted to make sure.

    I don't need a bigger hard drive. What I plan to record will fit fine on the Series 4. I just need to get it out of the setup reboot loop because of outdated software.

    I am also not going to upgrade to a new or newer Tivo. The series 4 will work just fine for the limited amount that I will use it.
     
  17. Jun 26, 2020 #77 of 116
    ggieseke

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    If you want to copy and expand an existing drive your best bet is MFS Tools 3.2.
     
  18. Jun 26, 2020 #78 of 116
    ggieseke

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    What's the exact model number, and what size is the drive?
     
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    OCSean

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    Tivo Model #: TCD746320
    Hard drive appears original by the dust on it. It also says it's 320GB, Western Digital.
     
  20. Jun 26, 2020 #80 of 116
    ggieseke

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