HELP! Tivo crashed and I am away

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by Fred1, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. Ian_m

    Ian_m Active Member

    Jan 9, 2001
    Might it just be cheaper to try a new TiVo PSU and disk (or even another TiVo), to get a reliable TiVo rather than a*rsing around power cycling an already non 100% reliable TiVo.

    Since Nov 2000 mine has only had a couple of lockups requiing power cycling. Yes OK one crash was day 2 of a two weelk holiday, the DMA entry in the event log should have forwarned me what would happen a month or two later......

    Anyway new PSU, two new disks and if I don't fiddle via telnet or TiVoweb too much, TiVo just works and does what it supposed to, record TV...................
  2. TheBear

    TheBear Member

    Feb 21, 2001
  3. sanderton

    sanderton TiVoer since 11/2000

    Jan 4, 2002
    I've not managed to identify the component which detects when you are away from home, but it does crash very effectively as soon as you leave the building.

    A couple of weeks ago iIwent to the States and when I got back found that not only had the MCE PC crashed, but so had the backup TiVo. Thank heavens for bittorrent!
  4. Paul Stimpson

    Paul Stimpson New Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    If you have a cheap "standby" UPS then the output should be directly connected to the input under normal circumstances and the X10 data should make it through (assuming any mains filters the UPS has don't kill it.) If you have a posh "line interactive" or "online" UPS then the data is far less likely to make it and you may have to work around it.

    There are a couple of ways I can think of:

    1) The elegant way:
    See if you can find a UPS with computer control that you can kill and switch back on under control of your Linux box. Switching it off shouldn't be that difficult but you will need to make sure the particular UPS keeps its logic hot when it is off so it's listening for the on command. You also need to make sure you can disable the function in the software that shuts the computer down based on the UPS state as you want the server listening to its own UPS for that one and not the TiVo's!

    2) The messy way
    Get yourself an X10 switch and a small mains contactor (ac relay) connect the switching contacts of the contactor between the UPS and the TiVo. The contactor you choose will probably be about £20 and must have a 230V coil and break contacts (we want it to cut the supply to the TiVo when the X10 switch turns on) Connect the coil contacts to a mains plug and plug it into the X10 switch. Plug the X10 switch into an ordinary (non-UPS) mains socket. Get the computer to turn the X10 switch on to kill the TiVo.

    I think the best thing to try is to get your X10 switch then find friends that have UPSes or find them at work and try it to see if it works. If you find one that does then buy the same model of UPS for yourself.

  5. b166er

    b166er New Member

    Oct 24, 2003
    Brit in...
    Of course the REAL best thing is to fix the TiVo. Maximum possible cost = 10 quid for a PSU and about 100 quid for a drive, and throw in about a tenner for a fan. There's not much else to go wrong. The network card may also be no longer pushed fully home.

    It really seems the wrong way round to be going to all this trouble to be able to reboot something that you only need to reboot because it's faulty.
  6. jollyrog

    jollyrog New Member

    Jan 7, 2002
    Catford, London
    I don't agree. TiVo is a computer and computers crash. They're not meant to, but they do.

    Admittedly, it happens more when the HD is on its last legs, but it can happen for a variety of other reasons, from mains spikes to unknown.

    There's no harm providing yourself with a solution. After all, if TiVo was perfect, these forums wouldn't be full of hacks to make it better or fix its bugs.

    I can power-cycle my TiVo from anywhere, even using GPRS and a mobile 'phone. It's a facility I wouldn't be without now and it was fun to make. It's also useful when I've screwed up the latest hack, as I don't have to get down on my hands and knees to pull dusty power connector from the back :)
  7. b166er

    b166er New Member

    Oct 24, 2003
    Brit in...
    OK, I guess it's a matter of how much importance you place on it. If I miss some shows while I'm away, sure it's annoying, but all the best shows can be downloaded via ed2k or bittorrent, and others I can set a wishlist and catch 'em next time. Since I got this particular TiVo in 2003 I've never had to remove the power (except when I upgraded my drive and added a network card a few weeks ago). Prior to that my uptime was more than 2 years.
  8. Fred1

    Fred1 New Member

    Dec 9, 2002

    I now have a reboot solution but, I do agree that my Tivo is rebooting more than I am comfortable with. However I cant find a simple guide to TiVo logs and am not sure if the log extracts that I posted earlier were significant or not. However I have updated to the latest cachecard drivers (no noticeable improvement) and have just upgraded Hackman from version 1 to v4. Hackman pulled up a couple of duplicate startups in the rc.sysinit and for FTP and Tivoweb.

    So 2 questions:-

    1. Can anyone help analyse the logs (or point me somewhere where I can learn how to to do it for myself?

    2. Could the duplicate starts of TivoWeb and FTP have a bearing on stability?

    Some sort of RFID at work perhaps? ;)

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