HDMI FAILURE Poll - EVERYONE please respond

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by unixadm, Jul 3, 2004.

Have you had an HDMI Failure?

  1. No failure - In service for over 2 weeks and going strong

    863 vote(s)
    44.1%
  2. Had Failure on 1 unit - Made in USA

    223 vote(s)
    11.4%
  3. Had Failure on more than 1 unit - Made in USA

    83 vote(s)
    4.2%
  4. Had Failure on 1 unit - Made in Mexico

    291 vote(s)
    14.9%
  5. Had Failure on More than 1 unit - Made in Mexico

    74 vote(s)
    3.8%
  6. Do Not have HDMI/DVI Connection - Don't know if it works

    421 vote(s)
    21.5%
  1. tucsontiger

    tucsontiger New Member

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    Nov 21, 2005

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    You'll love this. D* has not shipped me three 10-250's. I get one about every other day. I really wonder how many are yet to come. The first one is still working, though I am less than two weeks out. Last night while watching a recorded program, I heard some buzzing noise and I suspect this could be the clarion call of death. That would make sense since I just fedexed the last two back to D*. Let's hope I am wrong.
     
  2. cmeinck

    cmeinck Member

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    As per my previous post, I was getting "no signal" from my HDMI cable on my HDTivo. The prior evening, a recorded show was unwatchable, freezing and green lines appearing. I was able to get the Tivo working using S-Video. I figured this way I could watch the remaining shows before shipping back to D*. Yesterday, I got a new TV, so decided to plug in the HDMI from the Tivo. Well, for whatever reason, it worked. My first thought was there had to be a problem with my other TV. I plugged in the HDMI to the other set and it worked. Now, I have already called D* and they shipped a new/refurbed HDTIVO. I'm guessing that the old one, while working properly, is about to fail. Should I still do the swap?

    Looking forward to feedback here at Tivocommunity as to my next step.
     
  3. Bilbrey

    Bilbrey Active Member

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    Jan 28, 2001
    Sunnyvale,...
    Yes, you should still do the swap.

    When my unit failed, it went out for about an hour (I turned the unit off and let it cool down). When I booted it back up, it ran fine... for about 2 days and then failed forever. actually until I fixed it myself...

    Watch any programs you can and sent the unit back.
     
  4. Feb 2, 2006 #1384 of 1437
    JimL

    JimL New Member

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    I just realized I posted this question on the wrong thread:

    With my HR10-250 my previous set did not have HDMI so it was not an issue connecting. Recently we purchased a new SXRD and I initially connected it with the same component cables - perfect picture. I then remembered I had the HDMI cables that came with the unit and plugged it into the TV - changed inputs - and the picture was this varying shades of blue - negative image sort of picture with no sound - totally unwatchable. I thought about buying new HDMI cables to try till I read some of the posts here which changed my mind. Has this occurred to anyone else or does anyone know what I should try next? I am also reading conflicting posts here as to whether the HDMI issue has or has not been fixed. Thanks
     
  5. Feb 2, 2006 #1385 of 1437
    tem

    tem Well-Known Member

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    It's dead, Jim.
     
  6. Feb 2, 2006 #1386 of 1437
    JimL

    JimL New Member

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    Ok, I'm not being a smart a** here - but do you mean the HDMI issue is dead (because it has been fixed) or my HDMI port is dead (so no use trying any other cables)? Thanks
     
  7. Feb 2, 2006 #1387 of 1437
    tem

    tem Well-Known Member

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    The HDMI port is hosed. Classic symptoms. Call and try to get a replacement. They should NOT tie you down to another 2 yr commitment if its still under the 1yr warranty.
     
  8. Feb 2, 2006 #1388 of 1437
    joetoronto

    joetoronto HR10-250 Lover

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    Jul 26, 2004
    Toronto, Canada
    does anybody really notice a difference between HDMI and componet?
     
  9. Feb 2, 2006 #1389 of 1437
    Bilbrey

    Bilbrey Active Member

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    Sunnyvale,...
    I believe this depends on the quality of the display and how that display samples the data.

    I personally tend to see a little more noise in the component signals. This could be because of the analog sampling nature of the component signal.

    HDMI with a solid TMDS transmitter will look great, but if you have a bad transmitter or on some displays a bad receiver, then you can see 'speckling'. But when HDMI (or DVI) is working, the display is great.
     
  10. Feb 2, 2006 #1390 of 1437
    AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

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    Feb 5, 2001
    I definitely do on both my TV's:

    Sony 50" LCD RP (768p)
    Sony 60" SXRD RP (1080p)
     
  11. Feb 3, 2006 #1391 of 1437
    joetoronto

    joetoronto HR10-250 Lover

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    Jul 26, 2004
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    i asked because i've never even tried the HDMI due to the potential troubles i read about here before buying mine.

    i didn't, and don't, want to take the risk of my tivo going dead.
     
  12. Feb 3, 2006 #1392 of 1437
    power3960

    power3960 New Member

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    Jun 25, 2004
    I just purchased a new TV with HDMI connectivity. I've owned the HR10-250 since it was released and HDMI connection worked perfectly. I'm not sure if I see much of a picture difference from it vs. component cables.

    Just my 2 cents...
     
  13. Feb 3, 2006 #1393 of 1437
    AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

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    Unless you specify the TV, this is a meaningless opinion. If you have an EDTV, you won't see any difference. If you have a CRT, you might not see anything. If you have a 720p/768p digital TV with no extraneous DACs, you'll see some difference. If you have a good 1080p TV with no extra DACs, you'll see a noticable difference.
     
  14. Feb 3, 2006 #1394 of 1437
    KungFuCow

    KungFuCow Thread Killer

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    May 6, 2004
    My 4th unit in enroute.. my last one had the HDMI port go out on it.
     
  15. Feb 3, 2006 #1395 of 1437
    Klankster

    Klankster Member

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    Aug 12, 2004
    Port...
    My HDMI port died a couple of months after I got my HR10-250. I notified the dealer so he'd know that it happened under warranty, but the hassle of reprogramming all my stuff into a new unit wasn't worth doing a swap, not to mention that, from the postings here, I could have gotten a much worse unit.

    I've been using the component output and it works just fine.

    THE BIG QUESTION: While researching this topic yesterday, I noticed that WeaKnees sells a replacement HDMI card for the -250. Has anyone here bought one? Just wondering if it really works (more than a couple of months, ha ha).
     
  16. Feb 6, 2006 #1396 of 1437
    beaster

    beaster New Member

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    We also need to factor in the source. The D* HD feeds are so poor these days (esp. when Sunday Ticket was consuming all available transponder bandwidth), that I'm not sure the digital out is going to make a noticeable difference on even good, digital HD displays. Sure, generally speaking the fewer digital -> analog or analog -> digital conversions in the data stream, the better. Personally, I've looked at both HDMI and component on three relatively high quality displays (720p LCD projector, 720p flat panel LCD, 720p LCD RPTV), and don't see much of a difference on the D* feeds.

    OTA is maybe a little better over HDMI - maybe. But I'm suspcious of my own eye and biases - without a double-blind test (or heck, even a single-blind), I wonder if I'm not reading something into the difference that isn't there.

    -Sean
     
  17. Feb 7, 2006 #1397 of 1437
    AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

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    Don't need double-blind. Connect HDMI and Component to the TV, and try each one.

    On my 1080p Digital TV (SXRD 60"), I can tell you OTA is noticably better via HDMI. I think TV type, quality, resolution, and size all matter. But there is a very visible difference.
     
  18. Feb 7, 2006 #1398 of 1437
    vertigo235

    vertigo235 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Charlotte
    Getting one tomorrow, so if I get a unit without a date on it, I *shouldn't* have this problem? Can I find out what the HDMI card # is that CCS is talking about without opening the box?
     
  19. Mar 4, 2006 #1399 of 1437
    Markyt

    Markyt Markyt

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    In the last year and a half I have had four of these failures. I'll bring it back to Circuit City and exchange it under the extended warranty plan. The only good thing when I do this is that they refund me the amount of money that the sell price has fallen on these guys each time I bring one in and the two year warranty gets reset to day one again.

    I just wish that DTV had the new MPEG4 machines out so that I could exchange it for one of those.
     
  20. Mar 4, 2006 #1400 of 1437
    joetoronto

    joetoronto HR10-250 Lover

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    Jul 26, 2004
    Toronto, Canada
    i'm wondering if you've ever thought about NOT using the HDMI, Markyt?
     

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