HDHomeRun DVR

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  1. Apr 20, 2015 #1 of 124
    Dan203

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    Seems that SiliconDust is taking a stab at their own DVR software....

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1275320038/hdhomerun-dvr-the-dvr-re-imagined

    Based on the info provided the software runs on a NAS and works with existing HDHomeRun tuners.

    I wonder if they're using CVP-2 and it's RUI capabilities to function? This could be an early glimps at how the sucessor to CableCARD is going to work.
     
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  2. Apr 21, 2015 #2 of 124
    stevel

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    SiliconDust.
     
  3. Apr 21, 2015 #3 of 124
    atmuscarella

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    If the successor to CableCard actually brings the 2 sat companies into the fold this is how TiVo should go. That way you only need to buy tuners if you want to switch between OTA, Cable, Dish, or Direct.
     
  4. Apr 21, 2015 #4 of 124
    mr.unnatural

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    Just saw this over at The Missing Remote. If they offer support to run it on an unRAID server I'd jump on it. I could replace my ATX HTPC with a spare Intel NUC and run everything off the server.

    In any case, it's great to see that there's still interest in DVRs for PCs and home networks. I am curious, however, what the $30 annual subscription is for. They already offer free guide data for their Kodi HDHomeRun add-on, but that's just for live TV viewing. I guess they need some compensation for the time and effort involved in getting the DVR app up and running. I suspect that the financial goal they're trying to reach has something to do with obtaining CableLabs certification, but I'm just guessing. They did say that protected content will be available to record and watch so I can only assume that they are seeking certification to make it happen.
     
  5. Apr 21, 2015 #5 of 124
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    Time to get another CableCARD and unpack my SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME.

    SiliconDust never did release their 4 Tuner units and never gave any explanation, But the 3 Tuner HDHomeRun PRIME is a very solid device at just $89.
     
  6. Apr 21, 2015 #6 of 124
    mr.unnatural

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    The link you provided doesn't say anything about a 4-tuner unit, just one that can record up to four channels at once. Current devices are capable of recording multiple channels using fewer tuners. OTOH, the HDHR4-CC leads me to believe that it is likely a 4-tuner model. In the past, they have indicated that a new 6-tuner model was in the works, but so far it hasn't seen the light of day. The original 6-tuner model was basically just two 3-tuner units on a single chassis and required two cablecards. The new model was supposed to use just a single M-card.
     
  7. Apr 21, 2015 #7 of 124
    slowbiscuit

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    They announced the MPEG4 transcoding 4-tuner devices a couple of years ago and never delivered. Doesn't exactly make you want to give them money for a DVR product (but I did love their 3-tuner Cablecard box). Apparently they now have a 6-tuner non-transcoding box in the works.

    http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/silicondust-announces-two-new-hdhomerun-network-tuners-with-tr/
    https://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=18513

    Don't get me wrong this is great news if they can deliver as Tivo sorely needs the competition, but I'm not holding my breath regardless of how well the kickstarter goes.
     
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  8. Apr 21, 2015 #8 of 124
    mr.unnatural

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    If you read through all of the web info on the SiliconDust website regarding the DVR software it appears that they already have the recording engine working. They've had the Kodi Live TV app working for quite some time and have had a Live TV viewing app for other platforms available for years. They just have to work out some of the other functions, like fast forwarding and such. It appears that it will be compatible with WMC remotes when used on a Windows platform.

    FWIW, SiliconDust has made guide data free for anyone that's been using the Kodi Live TV add-on as well as the TV View app that is included in the HDHomeRun software. They're only about halfway through the first day of their 30-day Kick-Off campaign and they already have over one-third of the target funds. I'd say that a lot of people are getting very interested in having this software developed.

    Good to hear that the 6-tuner Prime is getting close to being released, but I'll believe it when I see it. If and when that day comes I'll probably consider selling my InfiniTV 6 and go with the 6-tuner Prime. I'd love to swap out my full ATX HTPC for a new Haswell i5 NUC. The energy savings alone would more than pay for the annual guide data fee. I'm already using three NUCs for my satellite TVs and they only draw about 16-20 watts apiece.
     
  9. Apr 21, 2015 #9 of 124
    Dan203

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    The kickstarter page says...

     
  10. Apr 21, 2015 #10 of 124
    HarperVision

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    Ditto :)
     
  11. Apr 21, 2015 #11 of 124
    Dan203

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    I have an older HDHomeRun without the DLNA stuff, so I'd have to pledge pretty high to get a working system. Since I only use it for one station that I can only get OTA I'm not sure it's worth the expense.
     
  12. Apr 21, 2015 #12 of 124
    mr.unnatural

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    That only applies to the initial release. I'd like to see unRAID support as one of their "stretch" goals. It's certainly not beyond the realm of possibility, especially if there's enough interest in it. I suspect it would mostly boil down to compiling it for a Linux platform.
     
  13. Apr 21, 2015 #13 of 124
    Dan203

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    I didn't realize unRAID was a product. I thought you just slipped with the capslock key. :)
     
  14. Apr 21, 2015 #14 of 124
    tallmomof2

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    I'm pretty excited about this! Even though I own 2 Roamios and 2 Minis, I still run two Silicondust devices to my media server with SageTV. I only currently record clear QAM but the DVR software will support Cablecard and I'm willing to throw another $5 monthly at Verizon to play with this. SageTV is going open source but I've always been very happy with SiliconDust products and will be trying out the DVR software.
     
  15. Apr 22, 2015 #15 of 124
    mr.unnatural

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    unRAID is a software server solution that runs from a USB flash drive:

    http://lime-technology.com/
     
  16. Apr 22, 2015 #16 of 124
    trip1eX

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    Interesting. But...as someone who is invested in Tivo now I won't be a buyer unless it moves heaven and earth.

    I don't like the idea of recording over the network if I don't have too either.
     
  17. Apr 22, 2015 #17 of 124
    mr.unnatural

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    I agree that the pledge amounts that include the hardware is a bit steep, but you can always purchase the hardware separately when it goes on sale. I recently bought two brand new HDHR Connects for $50 apiece. You can find used HDHR Primes on ebay pretty cheap.

    I used to feel the same way about using the HDHR tuners for recording on my HTPC. Now I have a HDHR Prime and three HDHR Connect/Duals and they work great without bogging down my network. Recording on my HTPC vs. using a NAS and the HDHR tuners really isn't any different.
     
  18. Apr 22, 2015 #18 of 124
    mcf57

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    Tivo is STILL the ultimate user friendly device and platform. I guess this could be a good option for techies, but for someone who just wants to plug it in and go for the most part, TiVo is the way to go instead of messing with HTPCs, desktop or NAS devices.
     
  19. Apr 22, 2015 #19 of 124
    Dan203

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    Any competition in this space is good. The more pressure TiVo feels the faster they'll add all those features we want. :)
     
  20. Apr 22, 2015 #20 of 124
    HarperVision

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    I think that's the point of their new dvr, to simplify it. Read the literature:

    "The best part? It requires practically zero configuration."
     

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