HDHomeRun ATSC 3.0

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  1. tivolocity

    tivolocity Member

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    Not sure if it's appropriate to post here. But, nice to see some ATSC 3.0 hardware on the horizon. I'm a backer.

    HDHomeRun ATSC 3.0
     
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  2. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Cool
     
  3. ebockelman

    ebockelman PR#6

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    Congratulations on launching the Kickstarter, @jafa! I'm in to back one.
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    So how do people use HDHomeRun these days now that MCE is dead? Is everyone just using the Silicone Dust DVR?
     
  5. osu1991

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    I use mine with Plex. An old Duo and a newer Quattro. I also use the HD Homerun app in the FireTV for just watching Live TV without launching Plex.
     
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  6. tivolocity

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    Seems like most people use Plex or Channels DVR. I've used both. Plex is a great all around media center. At the time I used Plex, I experienced lots of issues with the transcoder. But, they've recently made improvements to their DVR. If you're looking for just a DVR, it's hard to beat Channels DVR. It just works. The only downside is the subscription. Personally, I found it worth the cost.
     
  7. JerryB01

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    I use the HDHR DVR software to schedule and record programs and for watching live TV from my HDHR devices. If I'm watching a recorded program, I typically use the Plex app on my Roku or the Infuse app on my Apple TV. Data is automatically synced between Plex and Infuse apps so both know what programs I have recorded and the current status of those programs (watched vs unwatched, etc.).
     
  8. spiderpumpkin

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    www.getchannels.com
     
  9. mr.unnatural

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    Ellicott...
    FYI - MCE died with Windows XP (Media Center Edition). I believe you mean Windows Media Center or WMC which has been included in Windows Vista, Windows 7, and was an add-on for Windows 8/8.1. It is still alive and well even though no longer supported by Microsoft. I'm still using it with Windows 7 and epg123 with a subscription to Schedules Direct. I cut the cord with Microsoft a couple of years ago and couldn't be happier. Still works great for me. I haven't used a Tivo to record anything since I retired my old series 3 models years ago.

    Many people have successfully installed WMC in Windows 10 so maybe I'll give that a shot and see how that goes.

    I am also a backer of the HDHR Quatro 4k tuner. I'm currently using a SD HDHR Prime for FIOS and a HDHR Quatro for OTA. I have a 2nd HTPC with Windows 10 that I will probably have to use with the Quatro 4k since Windows 7 doesn't have the means to support 4k. I hate the SD DVR app with a passion, but it looks like I may have to bite the bullet and use it for 4k. I paid for the DVR Kickstarter campaign along with five years of guide data so maybe I'll finally get my money's worth.

    I'm guessing it doesn't work with DRM channels. To the best of my knowledge, only WMC, Tivo, and your provider's DVR will be able to record any copy protected channels.
     
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  10. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I think this is a deal breaker for most people. Having to jump through hoops to install and get set up with a 3rd party data supplier is more effort than most people want to put in.
     
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  11. mr.unnatural

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    Ellicott...
    It's actually quite simple to set up and use. First you set up an account with Schedules Direct and specify the type of guide data you require (i.e., cable, OTA, and possibly satellite) by specifying the market(s) where you're located and the name of your provider. The cost is only $25 per year for up to five TVs, IIRC. Download and install epg123 from EPG123 – The alternate TV program guide provider for WMC using the instructions on the website or download the pdf instructions from here http://epg123.garyan2.net/downloads/epg123_Guide.pdf. Rerun the TV signal setup in WMC but don't accept the terms for guide data. It will tell you that you will either need to rerun guided setup again or obtain guide data from another source. Finish the TV signal setup and then run epg123 to download and generate the guide data and automatically import it into WMC. Make sure you checked the box to automatically import the data when you use epg123 for the first time. After it imports the data it will close automatically. The guide should now be populated with the data for the length of time you specify. You can get it for up to 30 days, but in reality the 1st 14 days only contain any usable data. The rest of the days beyond that are mostly placeholders with no guide info.
     
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  12. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    Silicon Dust makes great tuners, but I've yet to find a post here by someone who likes that DVR's UI. I use Channels DVR with two HDHR tuners, one Prime 3 for cable and one Quatro for OTA, and I'm in the Kickstarter for a Quatro 4K.

    We're almost completely off TiVo and onto Channels now, with our Roamio Pro and Minis as backup. TiVo is still better for live TV in the buffer because of the more granular FF/Rew.

    Correct, Channels just works with what your HDHR hands it. A Prime 3 works fine for me because our local Xfinity service doesn't protect any tier except the HBO-type premium channels, which we don't want. I'll be curious to see what the Prime 6 can do though, if it ever comes out.

    I would go all OTA and streaming here if I could, but can't find anything better than subscribing to cable for our daily dose of news and talk.
     
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  13. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    The Kickstarter is now at over $275K and almost 1300 backers. I'm in for one unit.
     
  14. SugarBowl

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    I only use HDHR to watch live tv in a window on my pc. It works nice with VLC for a minimum, clean look. I tried the DVR for a year and it was awful.
     
  15. mr.unnatural

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    Ellicott...
    I'm on FIOS and all of the Fox network channels (Fox News, Fox Sports, Fx, etc.) as well as HBO are all DRM. The wife likes Fox News (personally, I would have no problem with it being blocked from my lineup) and I record from Fx so it would impact us both. The biggest issue I would have would be trying to get the wife to get used to a new UI. She does not work well with change or technology in general. She's comfortable using WMC so if it ain't broke I'm not going to fix it.
     
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  16. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    Channels DVR is deep into their beta offering of TV Everywhere (TVE) internet streaming access. I don't know what your FIOS credentials would let you receive that way, but I got almost everything via my Xfinity login when I tried that feature before getting a Prime 3. The TVE feature can also get those channels via Fubo or YouTube TV or another alternative service. But even in beta, TVE is easier than the Wife Acceptance Factor (WAF), and I feel your pain.
     
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  17. JLV03

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    Correct. However Channels does let you use your TV Everywhere (TVE) login/password to record the streams from a good chunk of the cable channels. I haven't tried it, but I understand it works but not always.
     
  18. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    Ka-ching! Over $300,000, over 1,400 backers.
     
  19. Charles R

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    Being only two (ATSC 3.0) tuners and no current plans for such in my market it's a non event. The little I looked into it appears they might stuff enough channels into the available bandwidth the image may come out looking worse than today's... which isn't even passable.
     
  20. tivolocity

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    While this isn't that complicated. Channels — Channels Plus is an even easier solution. If you just need a DVR. Plex is actually pretty easy too.
     
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