HD Upgrade + Lifetime transfer!!!!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by jkalnin, Oct 11, 2007.

  1. Oct 12, 2007 #61 of 150
    monroe

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    It has DUAL TUNERS. Get a Multi-Stream Cable card or 2 Single-Stream Cable cards and you're set. The cable cards will decypher any QAM channels that you are entitled too (like your locals in HD), but you'll also get all the analog stations that are included in your package (ie... Channels 2-88 or whatever).

    Chris
     
  2. Oct 12, 2007 #62 of 150
    kb2120

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    Maybe the question he is asking about Section 7 ( or at least the one I would like to know ), is if I have a S1 on lifetime and a S2 on MSD, do I still get the S2 for MSD after I have the lifetime transferred to the HD Tivo ?
     
  3. Oct 12, 2007 #63 of 150
    m.s

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    That doesn't answer the question, which is does it have dual analog (NTSC) tuners? No cable card at all should be required to receive NTSC channels.
     
  4. Oct 12, 2007 #64 of 150
    MapleLeaf

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    Along a similar vein, if one had both an S3 and a THD and also an S1 or S2 eligible for lifetime transfer, and assuming that S3 lifetime transfers were still unnofficially permitted, would it be better to transfer the lifetime to the S3 or to the THD (or perhaps just keep the lifetime on the S1/S2)? MickeS, it sounds like you'd rather have the lifetime on the S3, so I'm just curious why. My thinking was that it might be better to put the lifetime onto the THD, if for no other reason than the THD can take a single M-card, while the S3 requires two S-cards. One less cable card means one less thing that can break down and perhaps render your lifetime unit to nothing more than doorstop status.

    Hmmm... along the same reliability train of thought, does anyone with both units know if one runs hotter than the other in the same environment? If there is a difference in the running temperature of the two, then from a reliability standpoint, maybe it's better to transfer the lifetime onto the unit that runs cooler?
     
  5. Oct 12, 2007 #65 of 150
    Narf54321

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    Well, we know that rwbil mentioned dual analog recording as a requirement. The S3 reportedly has better analog tuners (truly fantastic). Personally I prefer the S3's Glo Remote and being able to check what it is recording on the OLED screen without turning on the TV.

    TivoHD has better support for M-Cards, meaning less CableCARD and "outlet" costs depending upon the local CableCo. Its unclear if the S3 will ever properly support M-Cards.

    The S1/S2 still have video-inputs and compatible IR blasters to control external receiveer. You can rig the older Tivo units to control/record-from cable set-top-box or even satellite tuner, and maybe possibly other services like some IPTV setups.
     
  6. Oct 12, 2007 #66 of 150
    JYoung

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    I know for a fact the Series 3 can. I assume that the TiVo HD can as well.
     
  7. Oct 12, 2007 #67 of 150
    david4788

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    I have a series 1 that I got in 2000. I did do a hard drive replacement/upgrade after the green screen of death about 3 years ago. I figure 7 years is pushing my luck plus I want HD. My LG plasma does have a built in HD DVR, but it is not user friendly.

    I pulled the trigger and ordered a TiVoHD from this offer. Should be a good upgrade for me...heck I still use a phone line for updates...... ;)
     
  8. Oct 12, 2007 #68 of 150
    mattack

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    At least in terms of recording analog recordings, the TivoHD is at least as capable as your S2. Now, if you want to use it with an IR blaster to control an external box, I guess technically the S2 can do more. But you gain an extra tuner, and the ability to do HD recordings. Plus, at least there are the various rumblings about a solution for SDV, so I think it's unlikely the TivoHD will become a paperweight.
     
  9. Oct 12, 2007 #69 of 150
    MickeS

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    The Series 3 just looks so much nicer than the TiVoHD. :)

    Other than that, no real reason. I think M-Cards will work on the Series 3 later on, there's no hardware reason it can't.
     
  10. Oct 12, 2007 #70 of 150
    c3

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    I don't think we know that for sure.
     
  11. Oct 13, 2007 #71 of 150
    jayfest

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    I'm seriously considering doing this deal, but there are some other factors I have to consider. One is the impression I'm starting to get that I would have to buy one of those TiVo Wireless G Network Adapter or else my THD won't work properly. I've been running the S2 the THD would be replacing on a cheap adapter (might even be B, not G) I found on the web somewhere (and which has worked fine). So do I have to spend $50 more than I thought I did? And it shouldn't matter what adapter I'm using for the other S2 (which I am not replacing), should it?
     
  12. Oct 13, 2007 #72 of 150
    monroe

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    I just got back from my local Comcast office today where I picked up 2 new cable cards for the TivoHD I ordered off of the upgrade link last night. Comcast is charging me $0 a month for both of them.

    Chris
     
  13. Oct 13, 2007 #73 of 150
    jfh3

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    No, this is incorrect. When lifetime is transferred from one box to another, the original date of service for the original lifetime moves with it.
     
  14. Oct 13, 2007 #74 of 150
    jfh3

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    Yes, with no CableCARDs you can record 2 analog programs at once.
     
  15. Oct 13, 2007 #75 of 150
    jfh3

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    The only wireless adapter supported by the Tivo HD is the Tivo wireless G adapter. It does have a built-in Ethernet port, so if you can wire directly to your router that would work.

    Whatever adapter you have working now on the S2 will continue to work fine.
     
  16. Oct 13, 2007 #76 of 150
    moolman

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    Officially supported is the Tivo adapter but I've used the Netgear Tivo adapter on a S3 and a THD unit that I took off my S2.
     
  17. Oct 13, 2007 #77 of 150
    HDTiVo

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    Well, we don't know about the TiVo HD either. Heck, we don't even know if any cableCARDs will work when the next software release comes out. :p

    From a practical standpoint, I don't know why it matters which unit has LT, other than age. Maybe if one thinks they might sell the HD, but never give up the S3?

    Personally I am kind of liking the HD better than the S3. Maybe I'll sell the S3? ;)
     
  18. Oct 13, 2007 #78 of 150
    sfhub

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    So let's play a game. How much will you charge me to insure that my S3 will get M-Card in M-Mode support? Let's start at $25. If S3 gets the support, you keep the $25. If not, you buy my S3 based on my purchase receipt. Too low? Too high? Some people use insurance rates to judge how likely something will happen. I thought it would be interesting to apply it to S3 missing features like MRV, M-Card in M-Mode, and SDV. MRV insurance rates will probably be very low. M-Card and SDV I don't know, let the insurance rates decide.
     
  19. Oct 13, 2007 #79 of 150
    MapleLeaf

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    Well, as I alluded to in my previous reply, my thinking was that it might be smart to transfer lifetime onto the unit that seems to be more reliable and has the best chance of not breaking down. So, since the THD only requires one cable card to enable both cable tuners, while the S3 (currently) requires two, I was thinking that the THD might be the best bet because less parts means less chance of something breaking down. And I was also wondering whether there was any difference in the running temperature of the S3 vs. THD in the same environment. If there is a difference, the unit that runs cooler would seem to me to have the best chance of not breaking down in the future.

    Why are you liking the THD better than the S3? Do you mean aesthetically? Or perhaps does the THD offer better picture quality? Functionally, they appear to be pretty much identical to me.
     
  20. Oct 13, 2007 #80 of 150
    sepstein

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    Frankly, I'm disappointed I bought a Series3 and transferred the Lifetime to it about a year ago when it came out, and the Lifetime transfer was for a limited time only.

    Fool me once, shame on you, TiVo!

    Steve
     

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