HD Upgrade + Lifetime transfer!!!!

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  1. Oct 12, 2007 #41 of 150
    JustAllie

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    Yes, you just have to call TiVo to transfer the TiVo to your account.

    It's really important to buy from someone you trust, though, to make sure that the seller doesn't transfer the lifetime service out from under you as soon as they have your money... just a warning.
     
  2. Oct 12, 2007 #42 of 150
    bakk

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    Thanks JustAllie

    After doing some more reading online, It looks like you can transfer the Lifetime Service, But I read on another website that once you transfer the lifetime service to a new account it resets the date it was activated on the date you transfered it on. Meaning that if I bought a tivo on craigslist and transfered it to a new account(mine). it would show up as the transfer date, and not the date it was originally activated on. So i would fail to meet the "Activated Prior to October 1, 2003**." term? Is that true? Can anyone confirm this?

    Thanks!
     
  3. Oct 12, 2007 #43 of 150
    classicsat

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    True, but the last offer wasn't that one, it was the $299 for an 80Hr Series 2DT+Lifetime transfer, and was limited to older Lifetime subscriptions. That offer was in the summer just before the TiVoHD was officially launched.
     
  4. Oct 12, 2007 #44 of 150
    tj722

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    My TiVo qualifies, woo hoo! But I'm trying to figure out the math... Is it really better to get lifetime on a TiVoHD or just do the multi-unit discount and get it from Amazon for 50 bucks cheaper. Seems like I'd have to own the box for > 4 years to break even.
     
  5. Oct 12, 2007 #45 of 150
    jkalnin

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    Well, I am no math wizard, but if your Tivo qualifies you've had it for more then 4 years. So, don't you plan on keeping your next one just as long? Also, you get a year free on your current Tivo.

    Lets see:
    Multi-service discount = $6.95 month: $83.40 a year
    Buying off amazon = $50 discount, $250 total
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    1 year sub $83.40 + HDTivo $249.00 = $333
    YR 2 (+$83.40) = $416 total
    YR 3 (+$83.40) = $502 total

    Buying HDTivo from Tivo + Transfer = $500 (Plus 1 yr free on current Tivo)

    So in three years you'd break even, not four. This is a great deal, unless I do fuzzy math!

    *The math is fuzzy, I didn't account for the old Tivo, assuming you still want to use it once you go HD!
     
  6. Oct 12, 2007 #46 of 150
    mazman

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    I'm having problems considering this, too. While having lifetime service appears nice, it also encourages you to keep the unit running when you should actually replace it.

    In my case, I've had my Series 2 since on lifetime since May 2002. In addition to the $250 (I believe) I paid for lifetime, I paid an additional $90 to have the unit repaired in 2004 and $100 for Tivo to replace my unit in 2006 when the motherboard crapped out. (They kindly let me keep the lifetime on the replacement unit.)

    If I didn't have lifetime, I might just have opted to go with a newer unit, which would mean not getting MSD on one of the units ($6 x 12 = $72/yr).

    That said, I'm still not certain what I'll do.
     
  7. Oct 12, 2007 #47 of 150
    tj722

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    Thanks for helping with the math. :)

    I guess my biggest worry is that this thing will be a brick in 2 years with the way standards are always changing. I'm sure others feel the same way. I still am thinking my S2 will be useful for longer. :)
     
  8. Oct 12, 2007 #48 of 150
    Narf54321

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    You could think of it like this: In less than 1-1/2 year, U.S. broadcast is changing completely to digital. A lot of cable companies are trying to also tie in digital-cutover by the same time (Feb 2009).

    TivoHD is dual tuner (less recording conflicts), can tune old analog cable as well as new digital QAM *and* ATSC digital over-the-air. So, you'd be ready for the digital cutover. Now which machine is going to be a "brick" in less than two years?

    The only technical feature TivoHD would be missing is the video-input/IR-blaster to hook up to an external receiver of some sort.
     
  9. Oct 12, 2007 #49 of 150
    MickeS

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    The S2 can be used with any video converter that has at least composite out, which will be all products in the foreseeable future.

    The TiVoHD can only be used with analog and digital OTA and cable, and if the standards for those change, it will be a brick. Now I don't think those standards will change, but the S2 has a virtually unlimited life no matter what.
     
  10. Oct 12, 2007 #50 of 150
    tj722

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    That's actually my worst fear... That I would have to use the S2's IR-blaster to record TV in 2010... :eek:
     
  11. Oct 12, 2007 #51 of 150
    tj722

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    Exactly, great points. Now I'm leaning towards just going monthy... Argh! :) This is worse than buying a car. :)
     
  12. Oct 12, 2007 #52 of 150
    NotVeryWitty

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    So here's my sad story:

    I have two Tivos, a DT bought a year ago for which I get MSD of $6.95/month, and an ST (with Lifetime) with an Activation Date (according to the Manage My Account DVR Preferences page) of August 30, 2003. I recently bought an HD TV, and have been planning on buying a Tivo HD, transferring my MSD service from my DT (and retiring the DT).

    Unfortunately for me, I didn't buy the Lifetime Service on my ST unit until January 2004. So, even though the Activation Date of my Tivo qualifies, when I click the "Does your Tivo Qualify" link on the offer page, it says I don't qualify. :(

    Reading over the Terms & Conditions, it's pretty clear that the date that's important is the Activation Date of the Lifetime Service, not the Tivo. I guess I'll have to hold off buying that Tivo HD until another offer comes around.
     
  13. Oct 12, 2007 #53 of 150
    monroe

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    I am SOOOOOOO HAPPY! Ordered my HD TIVO off of Tivo's site late last night, when I FIRST heard the great news!

    I gotta admit, that I also LOVE all the COUNTLESS smug posts of "Sorry, Tivo will NEVER offer the Lifetime Transfer again!" were ALL proven WRONG!!! As if they somehow had insight into Tivo corporate policy and roadmaps.

    I was SOOOO tempted to do the Series3 Lifetime Transfer, but just could NOT justify close to $1000 for the Tivo box, plus losing the $199 I had originally spent on Lifetime Service just to spend ANOTHER $199 for Lifetime Service.

    Will I now see a FUTURE Lifetime Service transfer offer that is cheaper then this one? Maybe! Obviously all the posts of "They'll never offer it again!" have been proven wrong so far. When I DO see a better offer in the future, will I get on the forums and WHINE about it? NOPE!

    Everyone has to make a personal decision regarding whether an offer they are presented with is WORTH it at THAT MOMENT! Of course no one can see the future, and the future is BOUND to be different, so you've got make your decisions based on your individual current circumstances. If the Series3 offer sounded good to you a year ago and you pulled the trigger, then it was a good deal for you at the time.

    The future is constantly changing, I guess you can just 'sit on the fence' permanently and NEVER pull the trigger on anything!

    Chris
     
  14. Oct 12, 2007 #54 of 150
    NotVeryWitty

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    Does anyone know what this means from section 7 of the Terms & Conditions: "This offer is not elgible [sic] for multi-service discount." If one transfers Lifetime service with this offer, do you lose the MSD on your other units?
     
  15. Oct 12, 2007 #55 of 150
    MickeS

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    No, I think that's just left over from their other offers. When you get a TiVo from tivo.com that unit is not eligible for MSD until the commitment period you opt for is over. Since the "commitment" here is Lifetime service for the TiVoHD (after transfer), you don't have to worry about that.
     
  16. Oct 12, 2007 #56 of 150
    wdwms

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    Actually, you can get the TivoHD and S3s to record from another source. While you would not have IR control, you could do it as follows:

    Other device (sat tuner, cable box, etc) -> RF Modulator on say channel 14 -> TivoHD/S3 Antenna In

    In this case the TivoHD/S3 would "see" channel 14 as a source. You'd have to set up a manual recording at a specified time, but provided the box was on the correct channel, you would be able to record.

    I have an RF modulator in our house, it broadcasts our S1 and S3 on channels 14 and 18 inside our house.. easy distribution w/out extra wires; and yes it has IR control.

    -t
     
  17. Oct 12, 2007 #57 of 150
    Wegg

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    I'm so mad.

    I got duped into believing that the ONLY way to keep my lifetime subscription I paid for with my series 1 was to get this fancy new Series3. So like a dumb ass I go buy something I didn't need or really want. Its remote doesn't work all that great. . . its a bit flaky. . . doesn't have all the cool Tivo -> PC stuff that the Series 2 has etc. This in-expensive HD tivo is what I wanted. Nothing fancy. None of this THX crap, back lit remote, LED display that I can't read from my couch. . . . But they gave NO indication that this product was coming down the line or that I'd have the option of transferring to it later if I wanted too. They held my investment hostage and suckered money out of me. This sucks. :mad:
     
  18. Oct 12, 2007 #58 of 150
    MickeS

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    Yes indeed.
     
  19. Oct 12, 2007 #59 of 150
    Ishma

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    Welcome to the real world...
     
  20. Oct 12, 2007 #60 of 150
    rwbil

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    I have a Series I and would be interested in this offer, but I get analog cable from Comcast. And I want the ability to record two analog shows at once. It is not clear to me from the specs if I can do this. I called TIVO and the lady said you could record two HD show, but did not know about Standard Definition. Does anybody know the answer and where it is show in their specs if they have a dual tuner or not for SD.
     

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