HBO's The Outsider (2020) SPOILERS

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  1. Mar 9, 2020 #101 of 113
    Robin

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    Ok thanks. I got all that I was just trying to figure out who it was.

    Did they have an explanation for the video showing Claude?
     
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    inaka

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    She stabbed it in the heart with Ralph's knife. She was very close to it at that moment. That's when it happened.
     
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    inaka

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    I try to avoid these threads that include spoilers as much as possible until the series/season is over, but all I gotta say is that I loved everything about this series.
    The way it was shot was both innovative and unsettling. The use of selective focus and a wide aperture was really unique, and the acting was phenomenal.

    I'm bummed it's over because I got to chat each week with my soon-to-be stepson about this series. He only read the book, but didn't watch the series, so each week we would sit down, I'd explain what happened in the series and he would tell me unique things about the book that were different, etc. It was a blast. He was 100% adamant after reading the book that there cannot possibly be another season to this. I kept telling him, "I dunnnooooo...you never know" so he's really going to be freaked out when I get a chance to tell him about Holly.

    Great series, and I can't wait for season two if that happens.
    (The again, I said the same thing about True Detective when season one was over, and season two was a complete belly flop into the s%^t pool!) :)
     
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    photoshopgrl

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    The Outsider never moved during that scene and if it had would she really not react at all? Or Ralph? He was standing in view of her arm. Also she was wearing a jacket. None of it makes sense really and I'm okay with that.
     
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    inaka

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    Yes, but it didn't have to move to scratch her. She really stabbed it in the heart, (out of rage or the need for closure or whatever) and yes, even though she was wearing long sleeves, all it takes is another angle to start season two showing that "it" had a crushed rib poking out or something that got her arm when she stabbed it. She was so fixated on making sure it was dead, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if she didn't notice her arm (they were a bit messed up from the cave nearly collapsing.)

    Holly's scratch was along her right forearm, exactly where it would be if she got it while stabbing El Cuco. That's definitely when it happened.
     
  6. Mar 9, 2020 #106 of 113
    PaulS

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    Bingo. Thanks!
     
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    Tony_T

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    When she said “Who’s Terry?” was when I thought that El Cuco was now in her. So, looks like we’re set up for a Season 2.
    Good catch with the radio, I forgot she said she hates music.
     
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    Heard on a podcast yesterday that someone had spoken to one of the writers for the show, and the "Who's Terry" wasn't meant to mean that Holly was mentally impaired or influenced by El Cuco. It was intended to show Holly already participating in the cover-up. Sort of along the lines of "We didn't have this conversation..." Response: "What conversation?"
     
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    That makes sense, but IIRC, she said “Who’s Terry?” before Ralph said that the locals are coming, so we better get our stories straight (but I not certain of the timing)
    Still, it would only mean that Holly realized that they couldn’t tell them the truth first (which is ok, except that it goes against her character)

    I liked when she said “It takes an Outsider to know an Outsider”
     
  10. KRS

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    I finally finished watching the series last night. As much as I enjoyed it, I don't think artificially continuing it for another season would be a good idea.

    • Holly and company hunting a new Outsider/multiple Outsiders
    - this would either be a retread or they would have to start a task force!​
    • Holly becoming an Outsider or pawn
    - her going full evil would be pretty bleak. Her somehow fighting against the Otsider while being a part of it...not sure I'd want to see 10 episodes of that​
     
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    I think I'd like to see a follow-up season with :
    • Holly gets pulled into a new group that's investigating some other paranormal activity.
     
  12. inaka

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    I 100% would.
    If a coward like Jack could ultimately disobey The Outsider, Holly could definitely disobey it if she's a pawn.

    In terms of who could be the next outsider? Claude Bolton could still have something in his DNA that allows for it to replicate as him, or they could simply re-show that creepy scene during the faire/festival where the Outsider (as 90% formed Claude Bolton in a mask) tried to kidnap that kid. The Outsider was stopped by the kid's grandfather (father?) tackling The Outsider, and in the process his mask came off and then The Outsider ran off into the caves to hide. Very possible the grandfather was scratched during that altercation. If they reshow that scene right there, and then a new scene of the grandfather coming home, and realizing he has a scratch on his chest or something, that's one way it could have hopped to the next person.

    When Ralph asked the Grandfather if he was scratched, he didn't say "no" he said, "I don't think so", so it's possible that Holly would be the pawn fighting The Outsider from taking control over her, and the "clone" is the grandfather, (or someone else entirely).

    I'd watch the hell outta that. :)
     
  13. LlamaLarry

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    Looks like I have to go rewatch the credit scene, I am not a fan of credit scenes on TV (Sharp Objects was another recent one I had to rewatch).
     

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