HBO's The Outsider (2020) SPOILERS

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  1. Jan 20, 2020 #21 of 116
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Certainly seems that way...although in recent years there have been a number of foreign shows that feint towards supernatural and then go the other way (e.g. Fortitude, Kettering Incident, The Gloaming).
     
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    I'll give you 3 out of 4. While it was a good movie, The Shining was not a good adaptation of the book. it changed so much of the feel of the story. Instead of Jack's slow decent into madness being caused by the haunted hotel, it was clear from the outset that Jack Torrance was nuts from the outset and trying to hold onto what little sanity he had during the months of isolation at the hotel. Polar opposites. Part of that blame goes to the choice of Nicholson as Jack, and how Kubrick wanted to take it on.

    I like the movie version of The Shining, but for different reasons than I like the book.
     
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    With King, it's a good bet to take.
     
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    Maybe I didn’t read the books carefully enough, but Holly strikes me as off. In the books isn’t she sort of an intuitive, on the spectrum great researcher and logician?
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    Well, that sounds like the character on the show.

    She is, however, pretty radically different than the same character on Mr. Mercedes...although that could be different times in their lives. I guess I can see the Mr. Mercedes version being more or less the origin story for the Outsider version. To a degree, anyway, if we assume symptoms can grow worse with age.
     
  6. Jan 21, 2020 #26 of 116
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    She knows every song and every day of the week and all of those baseball stats?
     
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    As I recall, in the book the character was true to the "original" Holly. They've altered the character significantly for this show.
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    Wait, what? There was a Holly before the book?
     
  9. Jan 21, 2020 #29 of 116
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    I think he means that in the book "The Outsider" King was true to how Holly was written in "Mr. Mercedes" and the two sequels, not that there was a Holly before the book.
     
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    ADG

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    Yes, exactly. Sorry - thought that was understood.
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    Ah...well, that's not really surprising, is it? Same writer and all...
     
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    Robin

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    Just caught up with the 3rd. I'm lost, but enjoying it.
     
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    I found the 3rd episode pretty boring. Just binged Castle Rock at least that continued to grab me each episode.
     
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    Is Castle Rock the kind of show that each episode stands on its own, or is it a continuing story line building upon each episode?
     
  15. Jan 25, 2020 #35 of 116
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    It's a serial.
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    Or more accurately, it's a series of loosely connected serials (each season is a new story, with very light connections).
     
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    zalusky

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    I enjoyed the 2nd season over the first season. There is some loose connections between the 2 seasons but mostly stand alone.
     
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    Just watched E4. Another solid episode. A little confusing at first (have I seen these people?), but tied up by the end. The female PI is a fascinating character, and whoever the actor, doing a phenomenal job.

    It looks like it's descending into the supernatural. That's not my genre, which is why I generally don't read SK, or watch his stories when made into TV/movies. Nonetheless, the story-telling is so good, the acting so well done, I can't pull away.

    It seems anything Richard Price writes becomes crack to me. Among others... The Wire, Child 44, The Night Of, The Deuce, and now this.
     
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    That is Cynthia Erivo, who was nominated for an Oscar for 'Harriet '.

    I'm really loving this still this show. Everyone is so good. And the ending with the reveal of El Coco (pronounced kooko) is something I am aware of since I was a kid. In the latino community, it was something your elders will tell you will come and get you if you were misbehaving. I know it was mean, but it worked...LOL!
     
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    I didn't remember the book that well, but thought this episode had a lot more exposition. But no, just searched my Kindle book, first for Coco (no hits) but then Cuco. It's a little different in the book, but not markedly so.

    My wife hates horror or anything supernatural, but she is enjoying this with me.
     

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