Have you seen "shortened" HD recordings with 6.3a

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by Fish Man, Oct 23, 2006.

Have you seen "shortned recordings" with 6.3 a.

  1. I've seen shortned OTA recordings that contained recorded DD 5.1 content.

    116 vote(s)
  2. I've seen shortned OTA recordings that did not contain DD 5.1 content.

    43 vote(s)
  3. I've seen shortned recordings FROM SATELLITE that contained DD 5.1 content.

    57 vote(s)
  4. I've seen shortned recordigns FROM SATELLITE that did not contain DD 5.1 content

    28 vote(s)
  5. I've seen no shortned recordings.

    154 vote(s)
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Oct 23, 2006 #1 of 122
    Fish Man

    Fish Man Phish Food

    Mar 4, 2002
    0.7 miles...


    It was recommended that I should have made this thread a poll.

    I agree, silly me.

    So, here's the poll, and I apologize for the fact that I forgot to put a poll the first time created an effective duplicate thread.

    Please respond to the poll only if you've had 6.3a for several days so that you've had an opportunity to observe this bug.

    Bug description:

    When recording an HD program OTA (at least, evidence at this point suggests it only happens when recording OTA channels) the recording starts on time but cuts off prematurely. On a 1 hour show, for example, it might record 1 minute or 57 minutes but it cuts off early. Sometimes very early.

    In my case, anyway, the unit did not reboot when it cut off. It simply cut the recording short for no apparent reason. In other threads, it was theorized that the "short recordings" were the result of a reboot.

    Reports in other threads an my own experience suggest that their might be a correlation to the OTA channel sending DD 5.1 content and the occurance of the bug, hence, the mention of DD 5.1 in the poll.

    I plan to follow this post with a detailed description of my observations regarding the bug. Others who have seen the bug, please do the same.

    Your response will help me decide if getting a replacement unit might help, and to determine how likely this problem is to appear on DirecTV's radar in the foreseeable future.
  2. Oct 23, 2006 #2 of 122

    cancan New Member

    Nov 29, 2003
    I was recording two HD satellite programs. It was the day before I received the 6.3a update. The programs cut at different times (One recorded 38 min and the other 47). I did a forced restart after this and haven't had the problem since (Almost two weeks ago and been recording at least 1 HD program every day).
  3. Oct 23, 2006 #3 of 122
    Fish Man

    Fish Man Phish Food

    Mar 4, 2002
    0.7 miles...
    Some details about my observations:

    Here in New Orleans, only 5 of the "big six" networks (CBS ABC NBC FOX CW MyNET) have their digital signal restored since Katrina (NBC is still off the air). (We also have a PBS, PAX, and LeSea/Independant station with a digital signal, of these only PBS has ever had HD content.)

    Only 3 of the "big six" are transmitting any HD content. Of the three that aren't, two are Katrina damage related (and, therefore, temporary): NBC is off the air entirely, ABC and CW are sharing a transmitter (along with the PAX affiliate) and there is bandwidth for only one of them to be in HD. ABC wins this lottery. The third, MyNetworkTV, is not transmitting HD due to a stupid ongoing lawsuit, not for any technical reason (politics of this stupidness are beyond the scope of this thread).

    Normally, I would be doing enough recording from the three that transmit in HD to gather statistically significant observations from all three. Thanks to the baseball playoffs, FOX drops out of the statistical mix at this time. It should re-enter the mix soon.

    So, I have a statistically significant sample from my ABC and CBS affiliates.

    All of my shows from my ABC affiliate have recorded perfectly. MOST (yes, a majority) of recordings from my CBS affiliate have cut short. Typically by about 10 to 15 minutes.

    Signal levels on both channels are in the high 80's to low 90's and stable. In fact, the CBS affiliate is stronger and has historically been less "glitchy" (i. e. the occasional data glitch caused by a momentary OTA signal dropout) than the ABC affiliate. Both, however, have always exhibited quite stable reception.

    Some differences between my CBS and ABC affiliate that may have something to do with the difference:

    • CBS affiliate sends DD 5.1, my ABC affiliate does not (temporary Katrina related jury-rig, again).
    • CBS transmits 1080i, ABC transmits 720p (Network standard difference).
    • ABC (720p) is sharing a digital transmitter with 3 additional 480i feeds (CW, PAX(i), a small religious network). Again, a temporary Katrina patch. CBS affiliate is the lone feed on their transmitter.

    For another combination, my FOX affiliate is 720p (FOX standard), with DD 5.1, and the lone feed on their transmitter. So, soon, I'll have some stats on them...
  4. Oct 23, 2006 #4 of 122

    DLiquid Progressive User

    Sep 17, 2001
    Happened to one HR10 recording football OTA. I was recording 4 hours and it stopped after about 2 hours, 50 minutes. On my other HR10, it happened during Friday Night Lights OTA. It recorded about 25 minutes. No reboot on either unit. Both times someone was watching the show that stopped recording. Both times it was within 1-2 days of upgrading to 6.3a.
  5. Oct 23, 2006 #5 of 122

    mdeatherage New Member

    Jul 23, 2003


    I got 6.3a on Friday the 13th. On Sunday the 15th, *all* of my prime-time recordings were either shortened or completely non-existent. I didn't get "Desperate Housewives," for example, even though I noted 40 minutes into the airing that the HDTiVo had tuned to the show and that it said it was recording it. "The Amazing Race" and one other show from that night were cut off far before the ending.

    I rebooted the HDTiVo after noticing this, and it has not happened again. Curiously, I also got back all the channel logos after this reboot.

    I'm wondering if the "reboot" to install the 6.3a software didn't go correctly - I never got a message saying it was there, for example. After my own second reboot on Sunday the 15th, I've noted no further problems except the occasional audio drop-outs, but even those are only on my local Fox HD affiliate.
  6. Oct 23, 2006 #6 of 122

    mdeatherage New Member

    Jul 23, 2003
    Oh, and I voted in the poll, even though I'm not sure who "Short Ned" is or what a "shortned recording" is.
  7. Oct 23, 2006 #7 of 122
    Fish Man

    Fish Man Phish Food

    Mar 4, 2002
    0.7 miles...
    Oh nuts!

    I can't seem to find a way to edit the text of the poll selections (and they are not checked by the spell checker either).

    And a special pox on me for copying and pasting all the common text in the poll choices (causing the typo to appear 5 times)! :eek:
  8. Oct 23, 2006 #8 of 122
    Fish Man

    Fish Man Phish Food

    Mar 4, 2002
    0.7 miles...
    I rebooted too. Mainly because my HR10 stopped responding to the remote and front panel controls (another 6.3a bug). :mad:

    No joy.

    Maybe I'll try rebooting again. :rolleyes:

    Prior to the "upgrade" my HR10 worked flawlessly. Now, I've got a really flaky HR10, the only alternative, the HR20 is made of a substance known as "unobtanium", and if you can actually find one, it has no functioning OTA tuners! :rolleyes:

    DirecTV is really sucking hard at the moment! :mad:
  9. Oct 23, 2006 #9 of 122

    phox_mulder I get paid 2watch TV

    Feb 23, 2006
    Salt Lake...
    I found that the TiVo doesn't need to reboot during the recording for it to miss half the program.

    I was recording Numb3rs last Friday, 9-10pm local time.

    Sat down at 9:30 and started watching The Nine premiere.
    (yes, I'm quite behind in a number of programs)

    At 9:50, I was FF'ing through a break in The Nine and it locked up, then rebooted.

    After it booted up I looked at the recording of Numb3ers and saw it was only 28 minutes.

    So, in theory, the TiVo actually locked up around 9:30, but didn't get bad enough to require a reboot for 20 more minutes.

    Food for thought.

  10. Oct 23, 2006 #10 of 122
    Fish Man

    Fish Man Phish Food

    Mar 4, 2002
    0.7 miles...

    Seems I'm getting spontaneous reboots too.

    My wife says that my HR10 rebooted three times this afternoon, that she observed. :mad:
  11. Oct 24, 2006 #11 of 122

    Seminole New Member

    Oct 27, 2003
    E.Walpole MA
    I had my first recording of Vanished stop short the other night and I also have audio dropout problems as well. I am so tired of D* and their software upgrades as this is not the first time I had a problem I remember they fried my DST 3000 with an upgrade a few years back as well
  12. Oct 24, 2006 #12 of 122

    cje2000 New Member

    Apr 5, 2002
    Port St....
    I've had a few problems with shows recorded on UHD. My recording of Firefly and Casino this week were short. Casino by almost 45 minutes. Also, HDNet showed odded behavior with recordings of Dead Like Me and Arrested Development. They weren't short but TOO LONG. DLM is a 45min show, but the time bar showed 1 hour, same for Arrested Development, 30min show, 1 hour time bar. Also the FF and trick play usage didn't work right on these recordings.
  13. Oct 25, 2006 #13 of 122

    hongcho .

    Nov 26, 2003
    San Jose, CA
    To repeat from the other thread...

    No short recordings: Most of my Season Passes are on OTA HD channels. All of my HD Season Passes are on OTA HD channels.

    No audio drops: I am using Halo C2 as a preprocessor.

    EDIT: Hmm... If people are getting reboots as well, couldn't it be related to the hard disk? BTW, I don't have any modification done to the HR10-250.

  14. Oct 25, 2006 #14 of 122

    IndyJones1023 Auteur

    Apr 1, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    My recordings are becoming truncated and I suddenly have no audio. On either recorded shows or live OTA (or sat). WTH is going on?!?!?
  15. Oct 25, 2006 #15 of 122

    Arkie New Member

    Feb 28, 2004
    I tried to record something about man eating tigers off Discovery HD the other night. Couldn't figure out why it stopped after 37 minutes, then I saw this thread.

    Must be the software........
  16. Oct 25, 2006 #16 of 122
    Brett Jason

    Brett Jason New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    30 Rock from 8:30- 9 ET only taped 24 minutes tonight.. Simultaneously, I recorded Jericho from 8-9 PM ET and it recorded the full 60 minutes, so I know there was no reboot. This was the first case of a shortened recording for me.
  17. Oct 25, 2006 #17 of 122

    davahad Member

    Dec 1, 2002
    San Jose, CA
    2 weeks ago Desperate Housewives only recorded 45 minutes on OTA in SF, CA. This is the first time I have ever had this problem and it hasn't happened since.
  18. Oct 26, 2006 #18 of 122

    cybrsurfer New Member

    Oct 13, 2006
    DMA : 109
    I'm very pleased with my unit. :)
  19. Oct 26, 2006 #19 of 122

    NYHeel Well-Known Member

    Oct 7, 2003
    Well I just got 6.3a and I figured I'd be fine since I don't use OTA. But I just got a short recording on Criminal Minds last night. It stopped after 40 minutes. I don't understand, how does something like that happen? I recorded it from channel 80 as I'm in the NY market. The weird thing is that it successfully recorded Lost (thank god) on channel 86 at the same time. Has anyone had a short recording problem on non-OTA channels?
  20. Oct 26, 2006 #20 of 122

    jeffstra New Member

    Oct 16, 2006
    Simi Valley, CA
    Yes. I have no OTA (can barely get FM where I live). My recording of The News Hour stopped after 23 minutes last night but my Boston Legal on Tuesday, 3 hours after the upgrade, was fine.

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