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Have Tivo Roamio, need either MoCa Bridge or MoCa compatible modem.

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by sklayton, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. Mar 7, 2018 #141 of 160
    krkaufman

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    Because the setup you just tried was a "test" setup, to make you comfortable with how MoCA *should* work, and to give you confidence in the setup as configured, so you wouldn't start making assumptions again and blow the whole thing up and start over.
     
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  2. Mar 7, 2018 #142 of 160
    sklayton

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    poor attitude and resistance because I didn't connect the TV a certain way? I never asked your opinion about the TV connection. You're just trolling me now. Sounds like you need a good cry in your pillow.
     
  3. Mar 7, 2018 #143 of 160
    sklayton

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    Do you have a diversion from this kind of stuff? Sports, movies etc.?
     
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    sklayton

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  5. Mar 7, 2018 #145 of 160
    krkaufman

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    And again you fail to comprehend simple text:
    And the resistance referred to in this case was refusing to answer the simple question posed by both of us... What is the point of the coax connections to the TVs? Do you actually still receive TV signals that are tunable via those coax connections?

    p.s. You lost any high ground a whole bunch of posts ago. Oh, and "semantics" doesn't mean what you think it does.
     
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  6. Mar 7, 2018 #146 of 160
    krkaufman

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    And, no problem, you're quite welcome. It's truly been the worst experience I've had assisting on TCF, but it became quite enjoyable and cathartic down the stretch, once given license to speak freely.
     
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  7. Mar 7, 2018 #147 of 160
    krkaufman

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    One for the road... At least per what was posted to the thread, you didn't get the Living Room set up correctly until post #85, and there is no reference in that post, or any where after, that you actually tested the Mini connection, with the associated complaints re: status lights to which we'd grown accustomed -- until the direct-connect test just completed.

    You say you tested it; ok, sure. Comcast will hopefully resolve the issue between the coax outlets, then.
     
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  8. Mar 7, 2018 #148 of 160
    sklayton

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    The ics communications guy came by and cleaned some things up in the outside box. He went behind the wallplate but it didn't work until we moved the modem into the mini room (living room) and replaced the HDMI cable. Now it doesn't connect in the Roamio (bedroom). He suggested a modem upgrade as mine is only a 2.4 ghz and is about 5 years old. said I may need to run a wire across the room which I don't want to do. The internet still works with the modem in the other room. He mentioned that it's best to use as few splitters as possible pointing to the ethernet switch. He said a poe filter isn't necessary unless it is an X1 package.

    Update, so both are working now. The Roamio is connected via wi-fi and the modem was moved to the mini room and the mini is connected via ethernet. The ports were blocked in network troubleshooting, so I called Comcast and they sent a signal and both TCP port test and DNS test "succeeded".
     
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  9. Mar 7, 2018 #149 of 160
    krkaufman

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    What does this mean, specifically the "it" part? What didn't work? The modem couldn't even initialize?


    edit: p.s. I finally see that I've been misusing the room names:
    Going back and fixing the posts seems pointless since all the quoted text is also inaccurate, so at least it's consistently wrong, as-is.
     
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  10. Mar 7, 2018 #150 of 160
    krkaufman

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    I could also use some help understanding what this statement means, as "other room" and "Internet still works" are both ambigous. Which room? And what do you mean, specifically, by the Internet "working"?
     
  11. Mar 7, 2018 #151 of 160
    kpeters59

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    So now the Mini is in the room with the Router?

    So the Mini can be plugged in to the router via ethernet?

    That leaves the Roamio orphaned?

    What if you switched the Roamio and Mini locations?

    What did the Cable Guy find behind the wall-plate? A 2 port splitter?

    Just hook everything up the way it was in the other room just switching rooms.

    You'll still need (and want) a POE filter to keep your networking inside your house. Plus the reflecting effect it provides to increase the MoCA signal. The POE filter connects at the very first cable that comes in from outside.

    -KP
     
  12. Mar 8, 2018 #152 of 160
    krkaufman

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    This has been possible from the beginning, but you are likely to find that the wireless connection for the Roamio is insufficient for reliably streaming recorded or live TV content to the Mini. (ESPN is usually a good test.)


    So, to put it simply... your technician visit was a bust. Whatever their merits, they didn't know what they were talking about Re: what you need: "He said a poe filter isn't necessary unless it is an X1 package." This is simply wrong. Comcast's X1 solution uses the same MoCA networking technology as a TiVo "whole home" setup; both rely on a MoCA network and so need a connected coax plant isolated from other residences using a "PoE" MoCA filter.

    Did you print the "multi-home" dwelling explanation/diagram for them? You could just tell them that you effectively *do* have an X1 setup requirement, since you are simply trying to setup a coax MoCA network, same as X1 -- and as you should be able to do.

    That Comcast hasn't properly isolated your coax plant is a security issue, and you can escalate it as such by pointing out that your neighbor's MoCA network is interfering with your setup, per earlier posts:
     
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  13. Mar 8, 2018 #153 of 160
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    Hi,
    I want to thank you for a good, shaking my head, laugh. After, some exceptional and extremely knowledgeable folks spent an inordinate amount of their valuable time trying to help you, you offer insults in exchange for their kind, generous and exceedingly patient efforts.
    You were repeatedly asked for simple information which was necessary to troubleshoot your problems and you completely ignored these elementary requests again and again. Even after your insults, you were still given clear and accurate information, you choose to take the advice of a Comcast "tech" who clearly has as little knowledge and understanding about MoCA as you do....just amazing.
    Here is the worst curse I could wish upon you, "you are 100% right in all things, please stay exactly the same as you are now."
     
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    krkaufman

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    Should you opt to not have Comcast come isolate your condo's coax plant, per previous posts, you're not doing MoCA and the TiVo Bridge is not needed. (And if the MoCA adapter is connected to your coax & Ethernet LAN and powered-on, it's a security hole, so long as you don't have a "PoE" MoCA filter properly installed.)
     
  16. Mar 8, 2018 #156 of 160
    kpeters59

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    Wow!

    Doesn't seem like there's hope for you...

    As my last post on this thread, I'll tell you these things:

    There should NOT be a wireless leg in your TiVo/Mini link. I'm surprised it hooked up.

    You definitely want a MoCA POE filter.

    Good bye and good luck!

    -KP
     
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  17. Mar 9, 2018 #157 of 160
    chiguy50

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    I've been tempted to post a similar commentary on this hilarious saga. Between OP's resistance to informed technical assistance and belligerence in the face of kindness, and your and krkaufman's endless patience, it's been quite entertaining in a train-wreck kind of way.:cool:

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  18. Mar 9, 2018 #158 of 160
    krkaufman

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    Missing from this update is any indication:
    • that the wireless setup is temporary;
    • that you disagreed with the tech's assessment re: the MoCA filter and isolating your condo's coax, and
    • that a tech was already scheduled, or would be, to fix what the first tech did not.
    ... and so it seemed, at least to me, that you would benefit from additional background on the issue, to be used in pressing the case with your provider. What you do with that information is up to you, but if you continue seeking help through this thread then you can expect followup queries on whether previously posted advice has been heeded.
     
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  19. Mar 9, 2018 #159 of 160
    fcfc2

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    Just to set the record straight, Krkaufman and then kpeters59 are the ones deserving of credit and therefore apparently abuse, my effort was quickly abandoned once I made my read of the "material" in hand. Funny thing was I remember thinking, I'll let kaufman run with this one, he's got so much more patience than I do, and still does. I do give myself credit for dropping this guy though.
    Some folks are not blessed with the best minds and if you combine that with difficulties in communicating it can be kind of a punishment to try and offer them assistance. "No kind act EVER goes unpunished.":(
     
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