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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by sangs, Nov 5, 2018.
@TiVo_Ted last here at TCF late yesterday afternoon.
Hey, Ted, hope that you're recovering from CES!
maybe he can make a Ira like summary here someday
Last here yesterday, but last post Oct 29, 2019.
On now via iPhone.
TCF is getting a little stalker-y.
Could be worse. Nobody tracks his Twitter use.
Hi. You know we love you. Sometimes it can seem lonely here. Maybe lost is a better word. So many of the new posts are members looking to find TiVo alternatives. Yet I see more cable companies using the Arris/TiVo platform and TE4. It's a little late, but you and TiVo have a Happy New Year.
Good job at CES.
Thanks Joe. I definitely see people dropping by to say goodbye. While it may seem like TiVo is giving up on DVR, it's not really true. We are still looking for ways to innovate on DVR, especially in areas that also encompass the streaming world. Our cable customers are also pushing for us to innovate in ways that will help them retain our mutual subscribers. I hope to have more to announce in this area over the coming months.
Clearly, our big innovation area will be our market expansion into the streamer category. We showed TiVo Stream 4K to the industry and press at CES, and will be showing more to our customers between now and April when we are scheduled to launch. What I think people are missing so far is how different Stream will be from what's on the market today. It's being designed as a complete TV experience, with free TV (i.e. ad sponsored) and pay TV from Sling and all of the app integration we have on DVR plus a few new ones. We partially did this on DVR with OnePass, unified search and TiVo+, but with Stream the integration will be much deeper and more seamless.
Yeah, Im in sync with TiVo, Ive cancelled cable, removed the 3 TB HDDs (which went into a NAS for local streaming)from the 2 main boxes, put back the 500gb ones and reverted them back to TE3. TE4 is way too buggy and ugly now with TiVo + cluttering it all.
I plan to eventually get rid of the DVRs. And thanks to Tivo, Cox lost a customer and I'm saving more money, thanks Tivo!
Now I mainly use Sling TV on FireTV's and the AirTV oTa with DVR. The DVR features is lacking. I wish TiVo could help with that. The FireTv with Kodi (for local files) and Sling is awesome, its only lacking VuDu.
I hope TiVO truly provides a unifying experience with the TiVo Stick. I do not like FireTv 4ks interface and its MPEG2 and deinterlacing capabilities is turned off or lacking.
I hope the TiVo stick overcomes all this as it will be priced higher. On Amazon I can still get more of their sticks for $25 still as of today. I think they know whats coming and they are dumping them into the market.
Maybe you could add the Tivo Streamer to Slings promos and get then out there cheaply, or you wont have a chance against Amazon. All Amazon has to do is offer Live channels and even Sling will be dead. Beware!
It doesn't sound as if there's much there for those of us who use pay-TV such as cable. I have Comcast and have zero interest in Sling and as the new streamer doesn't have existing TiVo DVR integration I guess my question is, what has TiVo done for me lately?
I'm in your camp but not so worried about TiVo doing things for me. My cable company has adopted TE4 and they're good with cable cards. I can get 1Gb, but I don't need it. I expect the next step is for them to drop caps. I have 100/10 with a 1.5TB cap now.
If your cable company adopted Hydra, does that mean it has pre-roll ads with recordings? Or the guide ad taking up a channel space?
In my situation, Roamio (TE3) for recordings, Roku 3 for streaming. I don't do streaming on my TiVo. In all fairness, I think the Roku 3 came before my TiVo, but I'd rather have a dedicated streaming device, and my Roku 3 does that already. But I do enjoy having Netflix, Prime Video, and Hulu added as apps, even if I don't personally use them, as they help me see what is available on streaming, even if I do flip over to a different device.
I've only noticed the interlace issue with 1080p FireTV Sticks, none of my FireTV 4Ks, Stick or Pendulum exhibit this issue. But it is really bad on the 1080p sticks.
Now to finally put this threads question to rest:
"Has TiVo_Ted fled the forum?"
Answer: Yes, he has, up until he decides to show up again!
I don't use their boxes. I have a few Roamio boxes and A93 Mini. The one running TE4 is just used for movie storage and it has a Mini VOX. I also have (for apps) a Roku Ultra, Blu-ray and several smart televisions. For my primary YouTube and Prime watching I use a TE3 Roamio. Everything in my main viewing room runs through an older Yamaha AVR with 5.1 speakers. I do not have Hulu or Netflix. I have no clue if their customers with the Arris/TiVo boxes get pre-roll ads as there are no people I know using them. I know there are two other TiVo users within 20 miles, both using my cable company. OTA is impossible. Everything is networked and two Roamio boxes share the recording tasks. I could do more streaming, but I'm not 4k and even with a DC 3.1 modem, it just doesn't excite me (I'm old). "Get more content" is not on my TDL.
so he's safely in Lebanon? Whew. I was worried. That's a lot of time spent in that black box. I would like to know how he kept hydrated though.
No more stalking?
I guess the big question is, what do you want from TiVo? The TiVo experience on cable hasn't substantially changed since the Premiere 4 got Haxe, with the sole exception of Verizon and a few small cable companies delivering 4k via QAM to Bolts and Edges. Heck, it's largely the same experience for a single TV without Minis as the Series 3 TCD652s. HD menus are somewhat of a change, but they don't really change the experience that much.
Pay TV is dying, Comcast is going to move to an all-IP infrastructure in a few years (although it's been a few years for longer than that already), they compress the living crap out of their TV channels to the point where they look awful, and the tech-savvy users who want to pay for TV and sports are moving to YouTube TV and other vMVPDs.
I'm not sure what you'd expect from TiVo for a cable-based DVR.
Ted! Great to see your thought on this. I have to tell you -- I saw the Stream, and you had me at the remote. I mean that. Everyone focuses on the on-screen user interface; that's all well and good but when you want to take your Siri remote and throw it in a tree chipper, that makes the entire device unusable.
There has never been - and probably never will be - a better remote than the TiVo Peanut. It's absolutely perfect. Simple, comfortable, makes it a pleasure to navigate.
Now, take that peanut remote, add in OnePass-style deep linking across multiple services, and we have a winner. Let me sideload a few apps of my choosing *cough*openvpn*cough, and we have a complete and total home run.
Honestly, I'm looking for the Stream 4K to replace all of my Apple TVs. (Take a hint there... something I need a + on from there to do so.)
If somewhere down the road it can replace my Minis too, that's point-set-match. I'd pay triple the price if I could replace the Mini *and* Apple TV.