Hard Drive upgarde... Pro's & Con's

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by TexasGrillChef, May 1, 2011.

  1. lessd

    lessd Well-Known Member

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    That not a true statement, unless TiVo has changed its policy from a few years ago.
     
  2. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I don't think TiVo makes the effort to check if a beta program user has upgraded their hard drive.
    But they do make it clear that if you have problems with the beta software, you are SOL and on your own if your Tivo has issues. TiVo will not support it.
     
  3. lessd

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    TiVo asks if you what size hard drive you have and does help all beta people with or without upgraded hard drives. (or did a few years ago) They know the most experienced TiVo users have upgraded hard drives and want their expertise for any beta program.
     
  4. alyssa

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    Yes, they do check. And you will not be allowed into a Beta program.
     
  5. TexasGrillChef

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    It seems that their is not YET a version of "InstantCake" for the TiVo Premiere units yet.

    When I upgraded my Series 3 using IntantCake it was very easy. I loved it.

    I am horiable with searching, apparently I never use the good search terms/keywords etc..

    I noticed that someone said their is a step by step guide for upgrading the HD on the Premiere units?

    If someone could point me in the right direction I would be so appreciative.

    Thanks

    TGC
     
  6. TexasGrillChef

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    Oh... I have several really good programs that will CLONE hard drives no matter what OS or Device they have been designed & built to use in.

    One of them did a great job cloneing the 250gb drive in a LG Blu-ray player so I could upgrade it to 1TB, It also did a great job of cloning the 40gb hard drive found in the Ford "Sync" systems and allowed it to upgrade the Ford Sync Hard drive to a 160gb SSD drive.

    So just wondering if I could use it to clone the Premiere hard drive to a larger drive?
    Or are their other steps involved for increasing the size to use the entire 2tb drive that I wish to install?

    Thanks

    TGC
     
  7. alyssa

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    go to the tivo upgrades area, there's a thread about upgrading. The Comer method is *very* easy. there's even a youtube on it....

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=455968

    I don't think you can clone a drive-
     
  8. lessd

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    To clone a TiVo drive itself, even if your program could do it, will not let you take advantage of any extra space on the cloned Hard Drive unless you use the all-in-one jmfs Live CD, information can be found here http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=455968

    As an example: Norton Ghost will clone a windows drive but not a TiVo drive because Ghost does look at the OS, the Ghost that originally worked on Windows XP had to be upgraded to work on Windows 7. Given that the JMFS software is free (unless you want to make a contribution to the author) there is no reason not to use this great TiVo Premiere copy/expand software as it works.
     
  9. TexasGrillChef

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    Just for laughs I did try and "Clone" the TiVo drive, using Farstones DriveClone software. You CAN in fact clone the drive. However... obviously as stated in a previous post you can't expand or supersize the drive by simply cloneing it.

    I guess this would be ok, if your simply replacing a drive with the same size drive, or wanted to make a backup of a drive.

    Just for laughs using the same software I imaged the original drive, saved it, then copied it back to an identical drive that I had laying around. It worked like a charm as well.

    Just thought I would let everyone know what I found out about cloning TiVo drives. I did try it with several other hard drive cloneing software. NOT all hard drive cloneing software will work! Norton Ghost didn't work. Acronis worked if you were doing a live clone from one drive to the other, but NOT if you create an image then want to restore the image. Go figure. I prefer Farstones DriveClone anyways it is a much nicer program, but thats JMO.

    I just did this for laughs, as an experiment just to see what would happen. In the end it really isn't very usefall, unless you want to keep an image of the original drive for whatever reason.

    TGC
     
  10. lessd

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    I already use Drive Clone Pro for my Windows backups so if you can get an image of the TP using that software that would be useful, I will have to try that out when i get some time, thanks for the information.
     
  11. DeWitt

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    If you look at Comers JMFS tools it breaks the upgrade down into steps that you select from the menu. The first step is to copy the drive. You can use this to make a backup copy. If the drive is bigger than the original a quick next step will expand and then supersize it.

    I can't say enough how easy this tool is to work with. I just plugged two usb/sata adapters into my pc, booted from the JMFS CD and it auto started, detected the drives and I was good to go. It is a really well done tool.

    And... I am loving the 2TB 317 hours capacity...
     
  12. unitron

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    If all you want to do is "clone" a hard drive to another of the same size, get the image of the MFS Live cd v1.4 (for free) and burn yourself a copy, then use dd or dd_rescue.
     

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