But I am nervous that the DVR just froze. That's not supposed to happen. Is the hard drive on that DVR on its way out?[/QUOTE] That *could* be true, this unit has been in active use for just over 6yrs. (I'm a she btw). But would this be the cause of the topic of this thread? To recap: Linusvanpelt13, has a Series 2 that's been in mothballs, somewhere... , previously had cable trying to upgrade to current antenna. Dodgerdave, has a (mostly) brand new Roamio, In metro Phoenix, trying to connect to antenna initially with an option to add cable. Connecting through WiFi and Ethernet. My folks via me, have a Premiere, in non-metro Oklahoma, connected to cable (w/ working cable card). Previously updated by dial-up - now connected via ethernet. We are all experiencing the same TiVo version of the Twilight Zone. We've all tried the same ways out. Plug in the unit... welcome screen... into guided set up. What country... yadda yadda yadda... everything seems good... w/ the cable card in (yes, I tried it without the card/add later too) cable test goes to non-existent channel 1 - but scrolling takes you to channel 2 - NASA & on to other active channels... what is your zip code? No matter *what* zip code you put in, it *says* it's connecting (according to tech support it is *not* connecting here)... hangs for a tantalizing few seconds in downloading... says loading 99%. and then says it can't find *any* cable (or antenna) providers at that zip code... please contact your service provider or try another zip code. Select takes you back to What country?" and back endless through the same cycle. If there's a way to access *any* other screens/ areas of the unit (including shows that were already recorded) I haven't been able to find it. In fact the only way to even turn off the TiVo is to unplug it. Anybody have a clue what causes this or how to fix it?