Got 14.7 Update

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by MikeTerryP, Dec 8, 2010.

  1. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    That really does depend on which cable company. Cox's DVR offerings are actually not all that bad. Of course, TiVo has more features, but the gap has been closing. Plus, with a cable DVR, there is no expensive DVR to buy, included updates, free upgrades (to newer equipment), free local instant-swap service, no cable card & tuning adapters to fight with, single bill, etc. TiVo is having a harder sell all the time.
     
  2. StringFellow

    StringFellow New Member

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    You are so very true. Tivo has lost its innovation and they are now spending too much time trying to fix software that is fundamentally broken instead of researching and implementing new features.

    Personally I don't think they will ever resolve the HDUI issues without a complete redesign of the software. And until they do this, innovation will take a back seat allowing cable and satellite providers to take the upper hand.

    TivoHD is how old now? And what did we gain with the Premiere? Not much if you ask me....a sign of the near future if you ask me!!
     
  3. plazman30

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    I think the issue here is trying to decouple the UI from the underlying DVR code, which is something the old TiVo code obviously did not have. I think that's what they're trying to do now, and having a tough time of it.

    I would not have picked Flash as my choice for the new UI, but that's me personally. I'm sure they looked at many options and Flash had the best feature set for what they needed.
     
  4. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Well-Known Member

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    From what I've seen around the web, they used flash because Broadcom did the port and it was available for use (possibly influenced by slick Broadcom salesmen who were influenced by slick Adobe salesmen :). It is difficult to imagine any technical evaluation could possibly have been involved in the decision.
     
  5. gamo62

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    Still no 14.7. The wait continues...
     
  6. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Well-Known Member

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    Yep. And if they want my advice (which they don't :), I'd make the tivo menu system run a web browser and the control system run a web server. Then you wouldn't have to produce separate apps for iPad and android, etc. You could just run any old web browser and get the exact same menu system you see natively on the tivo.
     
  7. ScottNY845

    ScottNY845 New Member

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    I am currently at 14.6-01-3-746...

    After reading these posts, am I correct to say that there is another update out there that I have not gotten yet and there is still one out there?
     
  8. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

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    The way TiVo does updates is they roll it out first to limited number of TiVos. This way if a huge issue pops up they don't have to try to rollback the update. If no issues are reported after about 2-3 weeks they do a mass roll-out where most will get it all in the same week.

    Currently 14.7 seems to be in the initial test roll-out. We haven't had any reports of issues on here from it, but the holidays probably pushed back the roll-out. We will probably see the roll-out either next week or the beginning of the New Year.

    They could also be pulling the trigger around CES so they can release the iPad app at the same time also.
     
  9. SQUIDWARD360

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    Not sure why the holidays would push back the roll out when they have been on the calendar for 1000's of years.
     
  10. morac

    morac Cat God TCF Club

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    I guess you've never worked in an office setting. Very little gets done between Christmas and New Years as a lot of people take off.

    Any kind of major software release would be inadvisable if no one is around to support it.
     
  11. CharlesH

    CharlesH Member

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    I don't know about TiVo, but a lot of technology companies are just plain shut down between Christmas and New Years, except for a minimal support staff. I mean shut down, as in the heat and electricity turned off and the buildings locked. Employees are given a choice of either using vacation time or taking unpaid time off. Other companies may not go that far, but they strongly encourage people to take the time off by doing things like closing the company cafeteria for the week.
     
  12. GDogg

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    Well I'm at 14.7.RC7-01-3-748 and experienced my first ever lockup on my Premiere XL. I'm not sure when the update was applied, but I turned on my TV and had a gray screen for all channels. I played around with menus and they were somewhat sluggish but I could not get the picture back. I finally tried switching from SD (classic) menus to HD menu, which came up, but then things really went downhill. It got very slow and eventually just hanged up on gray screen. I had to pull the plug and it took a very long time to boot up again. It seems to be ok again (so far).
     
  13. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    I see no evidence of this. Tivo lets the broken things stay broken and instead chooses to focus their efforts on new sub-par features.
     
  14. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    I think Tivo is trying to take advantage of the app "craze' that has plagued America.
     
  15. deek102

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    Well said! I'm on here because I'm utterly disappointed in my new Tivo premiere!! I can't describe how disappointed I am in the company I have bragged on for nearly a decade now... I know most of you feel the exact same way :(

    I went back, reluctantly, to the SD interface because the HDUI was unbearable. At first, I thought maybe it was my external drive (yes, I bought the recommended drive) that was the issue but it worked perfectly under the SDUI so that's not the issue. The issue is the code base. It's flawed from the ground up and nothing can fix it but a re-write. It's a house of cards waiting to tumble.

    Don't take it this as all bad -- Tivo Premiere has some wonderful features. I have 3 other Series 2 and when I use them I *always* skip to the end when I mistakingly click the "30 second skip" button. But Tivo has released an inferior product and yet they continue to pull the blinds down and ignore what we, their loyal CUSTOMERS (read that again, Tivo -- CUSTOMERS) tell them. They have had the upper-hand on the cable company for years and this is the product they release? A product with one-level of HD menus?? With pages and pages of show-stopping bugs?? I would love, and I know most of you would, to be part of the process to improve this product. To help make it the product that it should be. The product that we, the customer (yes, that word again) deserve to have.

    Sorry for the rant.. again.. I can't find the words to express my disappointment. This is about as close as it gets without violence or adult language :)
     
  16. gamo62

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    Man, I miss Better off Ted. Put this show back on the air!
     
  17. JohnnyCruzr

    JohnnyCruzr New Member

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    Here's your chance.....:D
    https://fieldtrials.tivo.com/signup/default.html
     
  18. Leon WIlkinson

    Leon WIlkinson TiVo Gone Wild

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    To bad TiVo couldn't someway use the SOAK, to help build new software.

    I know it would take some real outside of the TiVo BOX thinking.

    ;)
     
  19. SQUIDWARD360

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    But you PLAN for that. The holidays are not a surprise to anyone. Like I said..
     
  20. morac

    morac Cat God TCF Club

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    You can plan not to do something. Maybe TiVo simply planned not to release the update during the holidays? ;)

    Or are you saying they should have pushed it out before the holidays and then all left on vacation (or whatever they're currently doing)? I can tell you from personal experience, you should never tempt fate by pushing out a software update right before you go on vacation. Murphy's law doesn't take a vacation just because you do. :)
     

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