Got 14.7 Update

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by MikeTerryP, Dec 8, 2010.

  1. morac

    morac Cat God TCF Club

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    Maybe you can explain how TiVo makes money by giving away a free iPad app? Also presuming TiVo doesn't charge extra for Hulu, which they don't for Netflix, Amazon or Best Buy, how do you see them making money off Hulu?

    TiVo's income is based on the number of subscribers.
     
  2. caddyroger

    caddyroger New Member

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    Comcast boxes does not have Hulu Netflex Amazon. By tivo offering that tivo could sell more tivo and get more subscribers so they are making money off of Hulu netflex Amanzon
     
  3. morac

    morac Cat God TCF Club

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    Granted, but those services are not exclusive to TiVo.
     
  4. deandashl

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    It's not an opinion, it's a fact. The Premiere IS in a sub-standard state. Especially, considering the timeframe.

    On the other hand, I actually BELIEVE TiVo can add new features while fixing/completing the HDUI. In fact, it would not be a bad idea. Since OTHER companies add features while updating the UI on products. Pretty basic stuff. Considering, unlike a TV or Blu-ray player, the UI interface is BASIC functionality in a TiVo device, the lack of updates is rather scary.
     
  5. smbaker

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    Do we know that Tivo doesn't get paid for Netflix, Amazon, or Best Buy?

    Heck, I used to have an Amazon associates account, and little 'ol me, just a guy with a computer, got paid by Amazon for selling books and DVDs.
     
  6. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    You know what he meant, but they can do no wrong in your view.

    Just sayin'...
     
  7. orangeboy

    orangeboy yes, I AM orangeboy!

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    Actually, no I didn't. The presence of this thread is a clear indication that TiVo is working on the Premiere. Yes?

    That's hardly the case. The HDUI needs to be sped up. TiVo Desktop needs to be fixed to correctly transfer h264/ac3/mp4 files from the PC. OTA tuning/decoding IS sub-par to the Series 3 models. I just don't go around making ridiculous statements like:
     
  8. TWinbrook46636

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    As the Premiere is their only current DVR offering and the future of TiVo then yes, they do need to do just that. Okay, maybe 90%.
     
  9. yunlin12

    yunlin12 Tivonation Citizen

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    Good luck with cutting off your nose to spite your face:)
     
  10. caddyroger

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    I do not own a Ipads or ipods and I'll never will. I do not need them for any thing. I can use my tv connected computer for Netfix HuLu and other internet streaming. I do not listen to pandora so I do not need that. I do not use wish list or suggestions on the tivo so I do not need that. Really a the only good about tivo that I use is the transfer of programs that a Comcast or moxi can not do. If I decide not to transfer programs then a Comcast or Moxi box will do what I want. There no need to spend $$$ on some thing that does not work as advertised and will not fix it.
    To me I took a match and burned $300.00 because I'll could have gotten a Tivo hdxl or hd and added a 1tb hard drive for $500. I would the same thing as I have with the Premiere.
     
  11. smbaker

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    It depends on what you mean by "working on". Certainly there is a new patch so some work was done, but the primary reason for the patch appears to be the new iPad support. If there was no iPad app on the horizon, would there have been a patch? I don't think so.

    I'm generally happy with my Premieres, but I want the obvious flaws with the box fixed, and I do not understand why this is not happening.
     
  12. orangeboy

    orangeboy yes, I AM orangeboy!

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    Source please.

    I'm sorry, but when you make a claim like that, I'd like to see where the information is coming from.
     
  13. StringFellow

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    I called customer support several days and reported the HDUI issue (I just got my new unit last week) and he stated that 14.7 contains some fixes. He said he pulled up the release notes and stated that there were some items on the release notes referencing improvements in the HDUI. He stated that the HDUI is dynamic and required IP connectivity to the internet. He also said iPad support was part of that list. He mentioned that the iPad development is a different team/effort and the update in networking code of the Tivo software was the only requirement by the iPad development team.

    Was this BS, not sure, but it sure sounded good!

    I am currently using the SDUI since I had several instances where the unit would not respond to the Tivo remote control button when in HDUI mode. I do not have a TA. Simply a unit, IP connected and a Comcast cable card. A simple confirmation that had issues with remote commands....sure hope they make some huge improvements soon.
     
  14. mjpfeffer

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    Really, if you don't think any of those features are useful, you shouldn't have bought the Premiere. I think it was pretty clear what this box was and what TiVo was pushing when they released it. I bought mine about 2 months ago, after doing a lot of reading here and felt I knew what I was getting and I'm satisfied.

    That being said, if you don't think some of the key features of a TiVo (that have been since my old Series 2 at least) are useful at all, or that the new web-centric features of the Premiere are useful, then I agree with you that you might as well have burned your money.
     
  15. morac

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    Net-enabled boxes are the future. Even cable companies realize that. For example, Comcast is testing out their own net-enabled quad tuner DVR which does e-mail, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. TiVo needs to keep adding features or they'll fall behind.

    That said, TiVo also needs to finish updating it's interface to HD as well as updating old HME applications like YouTube which won't display HD video (the YouTube app outputs 360p).
     
  16. MikeRadio

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    Getting back on topic..

    I have 14.7 on ONE machine.. still not the other..

    However the version says 14.7 RC7....

    So is this a beta version, Release Candidate 7 and not a gold master?

    What does everyone else's version say?
     
  17. caddyroger

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    I preordered the Premiere in March based on what they was advertising. If I waited 6 months before ordering I would not have bought it.
     
  18. kturcotte

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    I don't think I wasted my money at all. I wanted an OTA DVR, preferably with the classic Tivo interface, and DEFINITELY with NAME based recording (Not a glorified digital VCR) and that's just what I got.
     
  19. innocentfreak

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    This is usually par for the course. When I got 14.5 or 14.6 early, it was a slightly different version number than the one everyone had when it rolled out. Eventually mine updated to the release version. Release Candidates may also have a little more logging built in to report errors in case they come up.
     
  20. plazman30

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    As much as everyone complains about how sub-par they think the Premiere is, the real sad truth is the cable companies have set the bar so low, that TiVo could completely f**k it up and still be light years ahead of their offering.

    Now Satellite companies seem to have their act together a little more. i think the TiVo is better than the DirectTV box, but looking at the latest Dish box, I tend to think we actually have some competition there.

    Then again, the Dish boxes are designed by EchoStar...
     

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